Why Is The Evo So Great?
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plus I love how it does what I tell it. Almost telepathically.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. That and the feel/communication through the wheel. I haven't driven too many cars that let the driver feel as much connected to the act of driving as the Evo. An extension of the driver.
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Agreed. That and the feel/communication through the wheel. I haven't driven too many cars that let the driver feel as much connected to the act of driving as the Evo. An extension of the driver.
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I just got my EVO RS and investigating why this car is so great.
Here is what I think for now:
- Pretty light car
- A lot of power, good spooling turbo and a well matched gear box
- Very short gear ratios
- Good steering ratio
- Stiff suspension
- AWD, Electronic Center diff and front and rear LSDs.
Here is what I think for now:
- Pretty light car
- A lot of power, good spooling turbo and a well matched gear box
- Very short gear ratios
- Good steering ratio
- Stiff suspension
- AWD, Electronic Center diff and front and rear LSDs.
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I prefer so many cars over the Evo for the money, particularly when you factor in pre-owned.
335i/335Ci, older NSX's, M3s, E90 M5s, E55 AMG (1999-2002), etc. No more low frill, budget car interiors or undesirable attention from the police or the general population. Then again, I'm a former owner who has no regrets about moving on.
I won't miss the constant fear that my engine is about to detonate, car will be vandalized or stolen even in the best neighborhoods, or the local dealership will close or fight me tooth and nail on a very common, warranty issue.
335i/335Ci, older NSX's, M3s, E90 M5s, E55 AMG (1999-2002), etc. No more low frill, budget car interiors or undesirable attention from the police or the general population. Then again, I'm a former owner who has no regrets about moving on.
I won't miss the constant fear that my engine is about to detonate, car will be vandalized or stolen even in the best neighborhoods, or the local dealership will close or fight me tooth and nail on a very common, warranty issue.
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Originally Posted by Google
I prefer so many cars over the Evo for the money, particularly when you factor in pre-owned.
335i/335Ci, older NSX's, M3s, E90 M5s, E55 AMG (1999-2002), etc. No more low frill, budget car interiors or undesirable attention from the police or the general population. Then again, I'm a former owner who has no regrets about moving on.
I won't miss the constant fear that my engine is about to detonate, car will be vandalized or stolen even in the best neighborhoods, or the local dealership will close or fight me tooth and nail on a very common, warranty issue.
335i/335Ci, older NSX's, M3s, E90 M5s, E55 AMG (1999-2002), etc. No more low frill, budget car interiors or undesirable attention from the police or the general population. Then again, I'm a former owner who has no regrets about moving on.
I won't miss the constant fear that my engine is about to detonate, car will be vandalized or stolen even in the best neighborhoods, or the local dealership will close or fight me tooth and nail on a very common, warranty issue.
None of the cars you mentioned except the NSX have the overall dynamic performance of the Evo--the power and handling--for the money. They're mostly bloated German hot rods--and I owned a 2002 SMG M3 for three years (heavy and underpowered compared to my Evo, for way more $ even after all my Evo mods).
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Originally Posted by Google
I prefer so many cars over the Evo for the money, particularly when you factor in pre-owned.
335i/335Ci, older NSX's, M3s, E90 M5s, E55 AMG (1999-2002), etc. No more low frill, budget car interiors or undesirable attention from the police or the general population. Then again, I'm a former owner who has no regrets about moving on.
I won't miss the constant fear that my engine is about to detonate, car will be vandalized or stolen even in the best neighborhoods, or the local dealership will close or fight me tooth and nail on a very common, warranty issue.
335i/335Ci, older NSX's, M3s, E90 M5s, E55 AMG (1999-2002), etc. No more low frill, budget car interiors or undesirable attention from the police or the general population. Then again, I'm a former owner who has no regrets about moving on.
I won't miss the constant fear that my engine is about to detonate, car will be vandalized or stolen even in the best neighborhoods, or the local dealership will close or fight me tooth and nail on a very common, warranty issue.
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I don't miss the Evo at all evo_rc. Nor does my wife. Once your career starts to move to the upper echelons of high finance, the social circles have no respect for the Evo. I got tired of explaining the high performance credentials of the car to all of my friends and family.
lbcevo--- I could care less about performance bargains. I want a good all around car, and at this stage of my life a little pampering needs to part of the formula at or above a $30,000 entry price. I do think however, the previous M3 while not mod friendly, does indeed lap a faster time around the Nurburgring in stock form. If I want a good drag car, an F-Body or used corvette with similar mods regularly spank Evos, and great handling can be found in spades with an S2000, Miata or Elise for autocross competitions. Since I spend most of my time at or below 80 mph, or in traffic, and 100% of my driving experience inside my car, I don't consider the interior a "useless" aspect. I think you've watched too much Fast and the Furious.
lbcevo--- I could care less about performance bargains. I want a good all around car, and at this stage of my life a little pampering needs to part of the formula at or above a $30,000 entry price. I do think however, the previous M3 while not mod friendly, does indeed lap a faster time around the Nurburgring in stock form. If I want a good drag car, an F-Body or used corvette with similar mods regularly spank Evos, and great handling can be found in spades with an S2000, Miata or Elise for autocross competitions. Since I spend most of my time at or below 80 mph, or in traffic, and 100% of my driving experience inside my car, I don't consider the interior a "useless" aspect. I think you've watched too much Fast and the Furious.
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Originally Posted by Google
I don't miss the Evo at all evo_rc. Nor does my wife. Once your career starts to move to the upper echelons of high finance, the social circles have no respect for the Evo. I got tired of explaining the high performance credentials of the car to all of my friends and family.
lbcevo--- I could care less about performance bargains. I want a good all around car, and at this stage of my life a little pampering needs to part of the formula at or above a $30,000 entry price. I do think however, the previous M3 while not mod friendly, does indeed lap a faster time around the Nurburgring in stock form. If I want a good drag car, an F-Body or used corvette with similar mods regularly spank Evos, and great handling can be found in spades with an S2000, Miata or Elise for autocross competitions. Since I spend most of my time at or below 80 mph, or in traffic, and 100% of my driving experience inside my car, I don't consider the interior a "useless" aspect. I think you've watched too much Fast and the Furious.
lbcevo--- I could care less about performance bargains. I want a good all around car, and at this stage of my life a little pampering needs to part of the formula at or above a $30,000 entry price. I do think however, the previous M3 while not mod friendly, does indeed lap a faster time around the Nurburgring in stock form. If I want a good drag car, an F-Body or used corvette with similar mods regularly spank Evos, and great handling can be found in spades with an S2000, Miata or Elise for autocross competitions. Since I spend most of my time at or below 80 mph, or in traffic, and 100% of my driving experience inside my car, I don't consider the interior a "useless" aspect. I think you've watched too much Fast and the Furious.
If you were such a player, you denfinitely wouldn't worry about blown motors and warranty issues. You'd have enough money to just fix it. You'd also be driving a modded 993 or 996 TT, or a Modena, not a used E55. Lol!
You're a hater, plain and simple, or you wouldn't have bothered coming back on this forum to hate on the Evo. Your fear of what peoplle think, fear of cops, fear of blown motors, is getting the better of you. Let it go.
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Originally Posted by lbcevo
Google, people who are truly players in "the upper echelons of high finance" don't speak like you do, and don't care what "the social circles think". I know several major Hedge Fund Managers, VCs and Investment Bankers who own crazy modded imports and other customized sports cars. They're independent thinkers, interesting people, and have more money than they will ever be able to spend. I have an MBA from UCLA with a concentration in Finance and Strategy, and a career of over 10 years of Marketing in Silicon Valley and So Cal, from high tech client side to Fortune 500 mktg strat, agency side. You're being narrow minded to assume I'm a kid, but I do like F&F I. Great cinematography and direction by Singleton. Stupid movies, but fun to watch.
If you were such a player, you denfinitely wouldn't worry about blown motors and warranty issues. You'd have enough money to just fix it. You'd also be driving a modded 993 or 996 TT, or a Modena, not a used E55. Lol!
You're a hater, plain and simple, or you wouldn't have bothered coming back on this forum to hate on the Evo. Your fear of what peoplle think, fear of cops, fear of blown motors, is getting the better of you. Let it go.
If you were such a player, you denfinitely wouldn't worry about blown motors and warranty issues. You'd have enough money to just fix it. You'd also be driving a modded 993 or 996 TT, or a Modena, not a used E55. Lol!
You're a hater, plain and simple, or you wouldn't have bothered coming back on this forum to hate on the Evo. Your fear of what peoplle think, fear of cops, fear of blown motors, is getting the better of you. Let it go.
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I actually have a new E55 AMG, and at least the same credentials as yourself in the business world, albeit with a few less years of experience. Fear is not what brought me back, but rather the post-Evo experience of buying and owning great cars in relation.
My wife and I still recall the experience of being involved in a minor hit and run accident, and the amount of articulate conversation it took to finally convince the officer that we were the victims simply because of the car we were driving. My wife and I were coming back from a nice dinner, so our attire and appearance were not a factor. I'm glad the all the hedgies, bankers in Northern Cal are so open minded, but I guess that's the California experience. Here in 06830, the Evo does not garner respect. My comment regarding F&F was simply directed at you because all you care about is dynamic performance. I want my car to excel at more than the performance columns of a review. I can also do without the 1980s econobox interior.
Why does the performance part on its own matter so much? Do you still derive pleasure in being faster than the car in the next lane after being in the business world for 10 years?
My wife and I still recall the experience of being involved in a minor hit and run accident, and the amount of articulate conversation it took to finally convince the officer that we were the victims simply because of the car we were driving. My wife and I were coming back from a nice dinner, so our attire and appearance were not a factor. I'm glad the all the hedgies, bankers in Northern Cal are so open minded, but I guess that's the California experience. Here in 06830, the Evo does not garner respect. My comment regarding F&F was simply directed at you because all you care about is dynamic performance. I want my car to excel at more than the performance columns of a review. I can also do without the 1980s econobox interior.
Why does the performance part on its own matter so much? Do you still derive pleasure in being faster than the car in the next lane after being in the business world for 10 years?