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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 02:34 AM
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HELP!!! very loud whinding noise in my evo ix!!!

Hey guys... thought id get some more posts and help in this section... I need your help. Im really stressed out... ok so here’s what happened... I pulled into a parking lot nearby to drop my friend off at his car... as soon as I pulled over I saw a huuuge patch of smoke coming out through my hood so I popped open my hood and noticed an unbelievable amount of smoke being emitted from the engine bay. It was so bad I couldn’t even breath I had to step back… it smelt like something was burning badly… let the car idle for a few more minutes to see if it would go away and it did. So then my buddy and I were driving back home and everything seemed fine until I started to hear a whining noise when we were cruising in 5th gear. It sounded like a tranny noise but I don’t think it was. My foot was just sittin on the gas pedal barely even pushing it down. It made the same noise like in take off in first gear like you can hear the tranny whining up as you continue to speed up, but not just in 1st gear… it was in all 5 gears. 5th gear being the loudest. As I continued to drive home it kept getting louder and louder. It never made this noise before and I also noticed that about 45 minutes after we left the canyons it still smelt like that burnt smell from the engine bay. It never went away. I hopped in my buddies evo ix to see if his was making the same noise but his sounded completely normal and had no whine to it at all. One last thing I noticed was when I revved my car at idle, it had a shutter to it and it sounded like air being let out of an opened tube somewhere… did the same thing in my buddies evo and his didn’t shutter as much and didn’t sound like air being let out from somewhere… much more clean and smooth sounding…By the way both cars are completely stock 2006 evo ix’s. im gonna take it to the dealership on Monday to have them check it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated…

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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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It could be a lot of things, but im going to guess Transfer Case.
Old Nov 5, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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I highly doubt it's the transfer case. It's very hard to tell but the smoke had to coming from somewhere. What did it smell like? Was it oil? rubber? It could be many different things but I've never heard of a transfer case smoking. I would grab a flashlight and look around the engine bay. Check all hose connections. Check for any oil and also check all of your belts and hoses for wear.
Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DSMEVOLUTION
I highly doubt it's the transfer case. It's very hard to tell but the smoke had to coming from somewhere. What did it smell like? Was it oil? rubber? It could be many different things but I've never heard of a transfer case smoking. I would grab a flashlight and look around the engine bay. Check all hose connections. Check for any oil and also check all of your belts and hoses for wear.
Don't be too sure

Another member here had a similar noise and it ended up being the LSD in his transfer case blew apart leaking the viscous material into the oil. He said the noise was loud.

I'd check around for signs of leaks and your fluid levels.
Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Is it stock? Take it to the dealership?
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 02:57 AM
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alright guys so i ended up droppin the car off at the local dealership (south coast mitsu which i have outstanding respect for their customer service). i looked under the car as i backed out of the drive way and noticed several spots of yellow **** colored fluid all over the floor. it had a puss look to it with many white spots in it. as i finally got to the dealership the car started smoking again but not as drastically as last night. we looked under the car with a flash light and noticed motor oil had been sprayed everywherrrrre.... i dont think the whine noise had anything to do with the oil leak though... im assuming i have more than one problem... these are the conclusions i have come to:

transfer case is done? (whining noise)
turbo lines leaking? (yellow fluid)
and obviously the motor oil leakage but not sure from where.

im going to call the dealership in the morning to find out for sure. i guess i should also had i have around 1000 miles and broke the car in fairly easy within the 600 mile margain. dont know why i would have so many problems so early on? any other opinions are greatly appreciated.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:19 AM
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by turbolines you mean oil lies.. would be the same color as engine oil. I'm not sure on all the stock evo color fluids.. I'm guessing yellow might be diaqueen in the tcase.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DSMEVOLUTION
I highly doubt it's the transfer case. It's very hard to tell but the smoke had to coming from somewhere. What did it smell like? Was it oil? rubber? It could be many different things but I've never heard of a transfer case smoking. I would grab a flashlight and look around the engine bay. Check all hose connections. Check for any oil and also check all of your belts and hoses for wear.

I dont. Cause thats exactly whats you problem is. Your TC is toast man. The dealer should fix this since your cars is brand new and stock. Not sure what caused it unless you had a bad seal in it and all the fluid from the TC leaked all over your exhaust. Mitsu will fix this
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UPDATE:

so i just got off the phone with my dealership and i was incredibly annoyed at what they were tryin to tell me.

heres a little backround. at around 250 miles i had my oil changed as i was planning on changing it again at 1000 miles. thats just me being overly cautious with my car, will not harm the car in anyway. so as i was at the jiffy lube getting my oil changed i sat there 2 feet in front of the car watching them during the entire process. the mechanic turns around just as the car is on the lift and points to my stock filter showing that it was leaking oil. i was thinking to myself this is just my luck... my car would be leaking oil at only 250 miles. i talked to them about it and they suggested that it was just a faulty filter or a cracked seal on the filter so i said oh well im changing the oil anyways lets see if it was the filter or not. (thats where i made my mistake and by not running straight to the dealership about it.) We take the stock filter off and examine it but their was no cracks in the seal or anything... just tons of metal chips from the motors break-in. so in a matter of minutes i was gone and on my way. a few days later all this happens.

ok now this leads me to the present. i just got off the phone with one of the managers at my dealership and i was laughing at what they were telling me and trying to blame on me. he said i was leaking transfer case fluid everywhere because wherever i had my oil change done they changed my transfer case fluid as well. he said the transfer case can only hold 6 oz's of fluid and i was 8 oz's over that meaning 14 oz's of fluid in my transfer case. i immediately stopped him their and said sir their is no way they changed the transfer case oil i sat their and watched them with my own eyes and my buddy of mine. im not an idiot i have done about 50 oil changes back in my auto class i took a couple years ago. it took a maximum of 2 minutes until it was finished... he continued to insist that they changed my tc fluid and that it was a different color completely... he kept saying that i was going to have to take it up with jiffy lube to get it fixed. he then started to blame the oil leak because of the fram filter they used... i started to laugh again because the fram filter is what is used around the country and is better than the stock oil filter. he kept insisting that the filter was too small and that he was an evo specialist lol. he continued to bash jiffy lube as if they have no idea what they are doing... ALL they do is oil changes who would have thought they had no idea how to do that . anyways so then i changed the subject to the whining noise and he said he test drove it for 6 miles and didnt hear anything. he said he was going to go and check it out again and give me a call back in about another hour or so... now what is your guys thoughts and opinions???
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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he then started to blame the oil leak because of the fram filter they used... i started to laugh again because the fram filter is what is used around the country and is better than the stock oil filter. he kept insisting that the filter was too small and that he was an evo specialist lol. he continued to bash jiffy lube as if they have no idea what they are doing... ALL they do is oil changes who would have thought they had no idea how to do that
Umm pretty sure Fram filters suck a big huge you know what compared to the mitsu filter. Infact all the 1G and 2G dsm guys swear by the OEM Mitsu oil filter that is used on the EVO 8. Plu sif you use OEM ones no way is the dealer going to blame an oil filter as an issue as to why the motor failed and why they won't cover it under warranty, etc.

And secondly I would never in no way, no how, unless my car was on fire would I let a Jiffy Lube employee to touch my car.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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The TC takes .58qts of fluid. you cant fill it much more than that cause it rushes out the fill hole. A fram filter, though not recomended, wont cause any adverse effects It just doesnt filter as well as stock (Unless your using the Fram X2 which is one of the best on the market). So BS to that. Your transfer case is definately the culprit if your getting that loud *** whine at 4-5 gear speeds. Good luck getting it warrentied though at the dealer you have it at. It seems as though they already have your # and have no intensions to work with you on this at all. If I were you I'd get my car out of there ASAP before they do more harm than good.

You might be in for 1 heck of a fight with this one. Diaqueen fluid (which should be in your transfer case is the same color as motor oil so call their bluff there as well)

GL to you at this point your gonna need it.

Dont mean to be negative but Mitsu will do anything to get out of warrenting your car and they have more money than you
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Umm pretty sure Fram filters suck a big huge you know what compared to the mitsu filter. Infact all the 1G and 2G dsm guys swear by the OEM Mitsu oil filter that is used on the EVO 8. Plu sif you use OEM ones no way is the dealer going to blame an oil filter as an issue as to why the motor failed and why they won't cover it under warranty, etc.

And secondly I would never in no way, no how, unless my car was on fire would I let a Jiffy Lube employee to touch my car.
+1, Fram sucks, and I agree about Jiffy Lube as well.
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They cannot void you warrenty from a fram filter these are OEM replacement even though they suck (All but X2) but they are going to do it anyway. at least try get a lawyer man. They can play the wrong oil in the TC card even though you know it wasnt touched. This is going to turn into a battle between Mitsu/Jiffy Lube/You. In the long run they both have more money and backing then you so you lose.

I never let anyone touch our EVO's but me and never will. Its reasons just like this.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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thanks for the replies guys i really appreciate that. i was always assuming the fram was a good filter. oh well too late now i guess. i have faith in my dealership and im prayin that they come through. if not i have two guys who were actually going to buy from that dealership and i would easily be recommending them somewhere else if my experience with them goes sour. ill be posting an update after i call them within the next 30 minutes.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Were you really hauling a$$ on you car before you had 1K miles on it. Isn't there a break in period that you have to do on these cars? Also from fighting with the dealership and the description you stated about the whining sound, there are 3 problems that sound exactly like mine.



1. Transfer case, whining on all gears, constant, leaking of fluid and burnt smell.



2. Lower IC pipe, smoke coming from engine bay, no power, no pressure, no boost.



3. Turbo malfunction, I blew the bearings off the turbo, metal-to-metal rattling noise.



I got the dealership to warranty both problems, it took forever but they ended up doing it, since I found a bulletin pretaining to the problems!

Good Luck!



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