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Originally Posted by PessimiStick
I think you're the one that needs to re-read it.
He said mostly 2k-3k, with 3.5k - 6k from time to time. I think that describes almost everyone that uses their Evo for a DD, as I know I personally can't get on it much on the way to/from work unless I want to put my bumper up someone's tailpipe.
He said mostly 2k-3k, with 3.5k - 6k from time to time. I think that describes almost everyone that uses their Evo for a DD, as I know I personally can't get on it much on the way to/from work unless I want to put my bumper up someone's tailpipe.
If you drive differently, then why buy a car like the Evo that starts to shine at higher revs? That's what makes no sense. There are plenty of other automobiles on the market that make for terrific driving experiences and that are able to perform very well under less imposing conditions. If one buys the Evo solely for the appearance of speed, that technically defines him as a poseur.
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Originally Posted by FJF
Mine is a DD and it almost never sees less than 3K after warm-up. The car is stock and I get 17-19mpg. I hardly redline at every shift, but I do like to keep the motor in the fun zone. Other Evo owners that I personally know drive the same way. That's why we bought our respective cars. "3.5k - 6k from time to time" is the norm.
If you drive differently, then why buy a car like the Evo that starts to shine at higher revs?
If you drive differently, then why buy a car like the Evo that starts to shine at higher revs?
We have this little thing called "traffic", and it unfortunately makes me a slave to the accelleration habits of the drivers around me.
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Originally Posted by PessimiStick
Because if I keep it in boost all the time I'm going to hit someone?
We have this little thing called "traffic", and it unfortunately makes me a slave to the accelleration habits of the drivers around me.
We have this little thing called "traffic", and it unfortunately makes me a slave to the accelleration habits of the drivers around me.
If you drive differently, then why buy a car like the Evo that starts to shine at higher revs?
Unfortunately, you responded to something other than what was asked. I'd like to read the answer to the question you quoted. BTW, I live in a metro area of 1M; we have traffic, too.
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Originally Posted by FJF
You quoted my question:
If you drive differently, then why buy a car like the Evo that starts to shine at higher revs?
Unfortunately, you responded to something other than what was asked. I'd like to read the answer to the question you quoted. BTW, I live in a metro area of 1M; we have traffic, too.
If you drive differently, then why buy a car like the Evo that starts to shine at higher revs?
Unfortunately, you responded to something other than what was asked. I'd like to read the answer to the question you quoted. BTW, I live in a metro area of 1M; we have traffic, too.
You are stressing the notion that he never gets on it, and that isn't at all what he said.
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Originally Posted by PessimiStick
Because he wasn't describing driving differently, nor was I.
You are stressing the notion that he never gets on it, and that isn't at all what he said.
You are stressing the notion that he never gets on it, and that isn't at all what he said.
"He said mostly 2k-3k, with 3.5k - 6k from time to time. I think that describes almost everyone that uses their Evo for a DD, as I know I personally can't get on it much on the way to/from work unless I want to put my bumper up someone's tailpipe."
Let's compare it to what you're currently asserting :
"Mine is a DD and it almost never sees less than 3K after warm-up. The car is stock and I get 17-19mpg. I hardly redline at every shift, but I do like to keep the motor in the fun zone. Other Evo owners that I personally know drive the same way. That's why we bought our respective cars. "3.5k - 6k from time to time" is the norm."
Not a lot of similarities there. First you drive at 2-3K with occasional burst to 3.5-6K, and now you almost never dip below 3K and keep the car at 3.5-6K the bulk of the time. I don't want to recap the whole discussion, as I see where this is going. Clearly, you're not going to post a straight-forward reply to the question you, yourself, quoted.
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I just got 307miles on a single tank.
I was driving 75-80mph consistantly on the highway.
80% highway and the rest is city.
I had a custom flash this monday from AMS.
Really love the new found HP and torque but the better gas mileage is definitely a plus.
I was driving 75-80mph consistantly on the highway.
80% highway and the rest is city.
I had a custom flash this monday from AMS.
Really love the new found HP and torque but the better gas mileage is definitely a plus.
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well im not stock but i avg about 16 to 19 and 21 is best ive had. mine is a o3 daily driven. i currently not boosting over 14 psi alky pump leaking. but i cant seem to get any betterthan that. i have atp 3071r kit on my car. with a non aggresive tune.
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Originally Posted by FJF
Not a lot of similarities there. First you drive at 2-3K with occasional burst to 3.5-6K, and now you almost never dip below 3K and keep the car at 3.5-6K the bulk of the time. I don't want to recap the whole discussion, as I see where this is going. Clearly, you're not going to post a straight-forward reply to the question you, yourself, quoted.
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Originally Posted by PessimiStick
You don't seem to see the difference between not *wanting* to be above 3k and not being *able* to be above 3k.
In a perfect world I'd be in the meat of the powerband at high throttle all the time. In real life, most of the time that isn't an option.
There isn't much of a point in continuing this facet of the discussion.
BTW, I see that you and I have identical cars <grin>.
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Originally Posted by FJF
..If you drive differently, then why buy a car like the Evo that starts to shine at higher revs? That's what makes no sense. There are plenty of other automobiles on the market that make for terrific driving experiences and that are able to perform very well under less imposing conditions. If one buys the Evo solely for the appearance of speed, that technically defines him as a poseur.
Just because someone doesn't drive the car the way YOU think it should be driven, they are a poser? Yes it is a performance car. I do Autocross (not in the Evo yet, still breaking it in). I save the performance driving for the proper venue. When I'm on the street, I get over 270 miles to a tank every time. I'd expect that number to drop severely while autocrossing or drag racing, but I don't think that "track mileage" was what was being asked about.
However, if I bought it and let it sit in the garage all the time, that's still not posing. I saw the car, read about the car, wanted the car, and I bought the effing thing. It's rally derived and I don't EVER plan on taking it off road like that. Do you? If not, you may just be posing right there beside me. Smile for the camera!
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Again, wow... What if I take my wing off. Will that remove the poser status?
Just because someone doesn't drive the car the way YOU think it should be driven, they are a poser?
Yes it is a performance car. I do Autocross (not in the Evo yet, still breaking it in). I save the performance driving for the proper venue. When I'm on the street, I get over 270 miles to a tank every time. I'd expect that number to drop severely while autocrossing or drag racing, but I don't think that "track mileage" was what was being asked about.
However, if I bought it and let it sit in the garage all the time, that's still not posing. I saw the car, read about the car, wanted the car, and I bought the effing thing. It's rally derived and I don't EVER plan on taking it off road like that. Do you? If not, you may just be posing right there beside me. Smile for the camera!
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Originally Posted by FJF
It seems like your orientation is appearance-driven all around.
The Evo has a 7600RPM redline and its engine begins to show itself at +3500RPM. This isn't my opinion; it's the way it is. A poseur drives a car solely for the appearance of speed and habitually running the machine at 2000-3000K is just that.
So, what?
I think you've said most everything for me. You seemingly bought the car based on its image, its press, its street cred and whatever else can be found, except for a heightened driving experience. It's no surprise, given your own comments which point to you rarely if ever tapping into the Evo's performance envelope - looking fast, but driving like a senior citizen in a street legal race car.
The Evo has a 7600RPM redline and its engine begins to show itself at +3500RPM. This isn't my opinion; it's the way it is. A poseur drives a car solely for the appearance of speed and habitually running the machine at 2000-3000K is just that.
So, what?
I think you've said most everything for me. You seemingly bought the car based on its image, its press, its street cred and whatever else can be found, except for a heightened driving experience. It's no surprise, given your own comments which point to you rarely if ever tapping into the Evo's performance envelope - looking fast, but driving like a senior citizen in a street legal race car.
Bottom line: as smart as you think you are, your antagonistic logic doesn't flow. When you buy my car for me you can tell me how it "should" be driven and stop payment when my driving style on the "skreet" doesn't jive with you. Until then, I make the payments, it will be driven in performance oriented situations that don't involve public streets, and the girlies don't know I'm not Tommi Makinen, so I'm comfortable in my "poser" status. God bless America.
Oh, and I just filled up again tonight. 295 on the odo. Booyashaka!
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Originally Posted by Shadowpriest
Bottom line: as smart as you think you are, your antagonistic logic doesn't flow.
When you buy my car for me you can tell me how it "should" be driven and stop payment when my driving style on the "skreet" doesn't jive with you. Until then, I make the payments, it will be driven in performance oriented situations that don't involve public streets, and the girlies don't know I'm not Tommi Makinen, so I'm comfortable in my "poser" status. God bless America.
Oh, and I just filled up again tonight. 295 on the odo. Booyashaka!
Oh, and I just filled up again tonight. 295 on the odo. Booyashaka!
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Guys, give it a rest or take it to PM please. honestly, this thread wasn't started for the bickering..
OP: It will depend a lot on the type of driving you do, where you get your gas, and of course driving habits.
Example: I live in IL, and daily drive 30 miles a day during the week to and from work, local roads, no highway cruising. I average 21.2 mpg as of recently, with no excessive boosting, and I conciously keep the car within the powerband where the most torque is available.
During the racing season I routinely make trips out of state to IN or OH to get to the tracks there, and that is as you can imagine all highway driving. During those out of state trips, I averaged roughly 24mpg, with a high of 26mpg on one tank.
OP: It will depend a lot on the type of driving you do, where you get your gas, and of course driving habits.
Example: I live in IL, and daily drive 30 miles a day during the week to and from work, local roads, no highway cruising. I average 21.2 mpg as of recently, with no excessive boosting, and I conciously keep the car within the powerband where the most torque is available.
During the racing season I routinely make trips out of state to IN or OH to get to the tracks there, and that is as you can imagine all highway driving. During those out of state trips, I averaged roughly 24mpg, with a high of 26mpg on one tank.