bad transfer case & wrong fluid = good court case?
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Originally Posted by PHILLY EVO
The Whin is from your TC but it's from you 6000 rpm launch. the stock clutch is made to slip to protcet the TC.
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Well dropping the clutch is 9/10 times bad for the drivetrain especially if the track is very sticky. You can easily blow out your tc, so I would suggest learning to slip the clutch when launching.
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Originally Posted by thatguy
Well dropping the clutch is 9/10 times bad for the drivetrain especially if the track is very sticky. You can easily blow out your tc, so I would suggest learning to slip the clutch when launching.
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Originally Posted by 05evoGSR
umm i just stated that i slip when i launch and no hard lash is created on the drivetrain...read the post before yours.
#21
Originally Posted by 05evoGSR
I get the car back, everything is fine and no problems. Shortly after i install some goodies and make 325whp on the dyno and decide to take it to the track. After about 3 runs at the track i get the death whine/howl on the way home and figure more HP, racing clutch, 6k RPM launches what did i expect.
Originally Posted by 05evoGSR
I have been driving around with the howl for about 3 months and 5k miles now and it got worse yesterday out of nowhere.
In your situation, the guy does the job...then you mod the car, drag race it (clearly abusive to the drivetrain), drive around for a few months on top of that, and now you say it's his fault the TC went bad? Even if you KNOW it's true, how can you prove cause and effect?
I think you're going to have to suck this one up.
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#22
Something else is "whining" more then the transfer case now!
jk. that sucks. I had a clutch change, then had DIAQUEEN put back in, and when I got 200 miles down the road, I got my WHINE!! I looked over in the passenger seat, and THIS TIME it wasn't my wife! I guess a little "O" ring got pinched in the process of a clutch change, and the fluid leaked out or something like that. Anyway, I got a new transfer case. Just had to pay for it myself. Good luck bro, and keep us posted!!
jk. that sucks. I had a clutch change, then had DIAQUEEN put back in, and when I got 200 miles down the road, I got my WHINE!! I looked over in the passenger seat, and THIS TIME it wasn't my wife! I guess a little "O" ring got pinched in the process of a clutch change, and the fluid leaked out or something like that. Anyway, I got a new transfer case. Just had to pay for it myself. Good luck bro, and keep us posted!!
#23
I brought my car in for a clutch job and my TC started whining a few weeks later. Luckily, Speed Element told me they put the wrong fluid in and gave me a brand new TC for free. I'm sure many other shops would've denied it since it's so hard to prove on the customer's part that they really did put the wrong fluid in. I was already getting ready to suck it up and buy a new one from Shep too.
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
In tort cases, the burden of proof is on the plaintiff to PROVE that negligence on the part of the defendant was the direct and proximal cause of the damage.
Again, you have to prove a "cause and effect" relationship between the mechanic's action and your damage. If the guy puts the wrong lube in your TC, you drive along on the highway for a few hundred miles, and the TC fails...then you can prove proximal cause.
In your situation, the guy does the job...then you mod the car, drag race it (clearly abusive to the drivetrain), drive around for a few months on top of that, and now you say it's his fault the TC went bad? Even if you KNOW it's true, how can you prove cause and effect?
Again, you have to prove a "cause and effect" relationship between the mechanic's action and your damage. If the guy puts the wrong lube in your TC, you drive along on the highway for a few hundred miles, and the TC fails...then you can prove proximal cause.
In your situation, the guy does the job...then you mod the car, drag race it (clearly abusive to the drivetrain), drive around for a few months on top of that, and now you say it's his fault the TC went bad? Even if you KNOW it's true, how can you prove cause and effect?
Also the mechanic and small claims court has no idea i brought the car to the track, modded it after the clutch install and so on. So i think that would be irrelevant
in this situation, were not talkin about tryin to get Mitsu to perform some warranty work here lol.
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Same thing happen to me, but i have other parts that are F'd.. My brand new clutch is toast, Tilton hybrid, don't know if its manuf. defect or install error, we sent pictures to tilton, waiting for them to reply. About the t/c, the shop was suppose to replace all the fluids.. My new mechanics took everything apart, there was 1/2 a gallon of fluids total and it was BLACK, within 3 weeks of driving, i don't think so.. My new mechanics have everything recorded.
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Originally Posted by PANGES
I brought my car in for a clutch job and my TC started whining a few weeks later. Luckily, Speed Element told me they put the wrong fluid in and gave me a brand new TC for free. I'm sure many other shops would've denied it since it's so hard to prove on the customer's part that they really did put the wrong fluid in. I was already getting ready to suck it up and buy a new one from Shep too.
#27
Originally Posted by 05evoGSR
You say "prove negligence on the part of the defendant was the direct and proximal cause of the dameage". Now as fas as i know, if you dont put DiaQueen back into the TC its going to fail eventually no matter how you drive the car, i think that would be considered "direct cause of damage". I mean especailly if i get him on the phone and record him saying he put something other than DiaQueen in the TC, now that is proof of "direct cause of damage" correct?
Remember, that's pretty much all he has to do. The judge just has to think twice about it. You're the one who has to prove it was 100% the mechanic's fault. (For the record, we know the "race clutch" stuff is bull****...but you better believe the mechanic is going to make a big fuss about it).
BTW, my stock clutch has lasted 50K miles...and I track the car heavily. How are you going to explain needing a new "race clutch" on a brand new car with just 18K on the clock. Imagine what a judge is going to think about that.
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Last edited by Kayaalp; Dec 7, 2006 at 02:43 PM.
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Originally Posted by 05evoGSR
Also the mechanic and small claims court has no idea i brought the car to the track, modded it after the clutch install and so on. So i think that would be irrelevant
in this situation, were not talkin about tryin to get Mitsu to perform some warranty work here lol.
in this situation, were not talkin about tryin to get Mitsu to perform some warranty work here lol.
#29
Originally Posted by 05evoGSR
It really seems like a lot of people have TC issues after clutch installs. Either wrong fluid put back in, not enough, bad installation etc. I think this is a bigger issue than we all think, i mean you get a clutch job and a couple weeks later your footing out 4k for a TC, thats not a minor issue. What is wrong with mechanics these days...
Emre