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Beware of Fake Voltex/GarageHRS Parts!!

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Old Dec 25, 2006, 12:02 AM
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wasup everyone.

wasup everyone. this is hiro...not eric posting.. we actually got the trademark from japan for ths us market. GarageHRS will not sell to anyone in the US without going through us. that is because we protect them from all the copies out there. i know there are alot of kits being copied and most companies whose in charge over here dont do anything about it (ings for instance with.....,). Us staff at J-ondemand has access to many patent lawyers as well as other lawyers since we have alot of college friends who graduated with law degree. Us J-on staff will not tolerate any copies being made and will go after these guys who has no respect for these hard working japanese manufacturers. =D
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Good to hear, I hate how replica's look anyway..You can def. tell the difference between replicas and the real thing!
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so is it safe to assume that all kits on ebay are fakes. Do you even do the ebay thing?
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Originally Posted by end_game
so is it safe to assume that all kits on ebay are fakes. Do you even do the ebay thing?
no we dont even have an ebay account
Old Dec 26, 2006, 11:23 AM
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so is it safe to assume that all kits on ebay are fakes.

They aren't HRS/Voltex kits are they ??
Old Dec 29, 2006, 01:38 AM
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ebay

no we dont have any ebay. we control all the voltex and hrs parts comin to the us as well as other parts. but we will start an ebay account in january for small parts. anything you see on ebay that says voltex/hrs is prolly fake. so please ask us before purchasing. thanks
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Originally Posted by SophieSleeps
I'm a little confused on what exactly is patented with these products?
You can't patent a product.
I'm confused about this as well. What's so different about these bumpers that you got a US patent?
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theres some retards on here, he made an invention, therefore in order to protect himself and his invention they need to patent a product they sell to prohibit whats happening right now.

a patent grants the inventor of a new product or process exclusive rights to the manufacture, use, or sale of that invention. a patent is alegal document giving inventors the exclusive rights to their invention for a number of years. A patent is an intangible asset that may be depreciated over its remaining life. The sale of a patent usually results in long-term capital gain treatment.
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Its not a patent. The folks at Jondemand did not invent the GarageHRS or Voltex products. They simply have exclusive sale rights from the manufacturer. So what the staff is trying to get across is that if you don't buy directly from them, or from someone that bought directly from them, you risk buying a fake. I'd also be willing to bet that some of these fakes are coming from China or another country where our copyright laws will not hold any water.
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Actually a company/3rd party can be given the right to patent a product for a different company when the original company doesn't have a presence in that country. Its very similar to where company A licenses company B to produce and sell their patented products.

If you invent a unique looking bumper for the Evo, you can patent it to prevent someone else from ripping off your design (as happened here).

WHAT CAN BE PATENTED
(Excerpted from General Information Concerning Patents print brochure)

The patent law specifies the general field of subject matter that can be patented and the conditions under which a patent may be obtained.

In the language of the statute, any person who “invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof, may obtain a patent,” subject to the conditions and requirements of the law. The word “process” is defined by law as a process, act or method, and primarily includes industrial or technical processes. The term “machine” used in the statute needs no explanation. The term “manufacture” refers to articles which are made, and includes all manufactured articles. The term “composition of matter” relates to chemical compositions and may include mixtures of ingredients as well as new chemical compounds. These classes of subject matter taken together include practically everything which is made by man and the processes for making the products.

The Atomic Energy Act of 1954 excludes the patenting of inventions useful solely in the utilization of special nuclear material or atomic energy for atomic weapons.

The patent law specifies that the subject matter must be “useful.” The term “useful” in this connection refers to the condition that the subject matter has a useful purpose and also includes operativeness, that is, a machine which will not operate to perform the intended purpose would not be called useful, and therefore would not be granted a patent.

Interpretations of the statute by the courts have defined the limits of the field of subject matter which can be patented, thus it has been held that the laws of nature, physical phenomena and abstract ideas are not patentable subject matter.

A patent cannot be obtained upon a mere idea or suggestion. The patent is granted upon the new machine, manufacture, etc., as has been said, and not upon the idea or suggestion of the new machine. A complete description of the actual machine or other subject matter for which a patent is sought is required.
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well if any1 can PM me a link to those horrid people selling immatations. shame on them for giving better prices for almost the same quality...

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Originally Posted by crasher
theres some retards on here, he made an invention, therefore in order to protect himself and his invention they need to patent a product they sell to prohibit whats happening right now.

a patent grants the inventor of a new product or process exclusive rights to the manufacture, use, or sale of that invention. a patent is alegal document giving inventors the exclusive rights to their invention for a number of years. A patent is an intangible asset that may be depreciated over its remaining life. The sale of a patent usually results in long-term capital gain treatment.
Certainly are some retards.
You can't patent products. You patent new ideas, new inventions, new manufacturing techniques etc. You can't patent a product itself.
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