Will There Be A 6spd USDM Evo??
May 24, 2003, 04:42 AM
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Black Evo 8 & Crufty Dusty: Where can I pick up a copy of this video? Is it in English? BTW I'm SoCal.
As for the tranny discussion, I too was hoping the 6 speed used in the rest of the world's Evo8s came to the states because I was hoping it would be like the Corvette's tranny with the last (6th) gear being an overdrive. This way, we would have the existing 5 speed with another gear added on to that for lower RPMs while driving on the highway, in-turn helping us save gas.
How is the existing tranny at highway speeds? Does it maintain the RPMs too high?
Don't get me wrong, I love having short gearing like the tranny in my M Roadster. Whenever I need power, I simply drop the pedal and I'm off. But, although that's good for power delivery--at about 3500 RPMs@80mph
it's not so good on my wallet.
How is the 6 speed geared anyway? Is it shorter than the existing 5-speed in every gear or does it use the last gear as an overdrive? From reading the posts before mine, I'm assuming it's not the latter.
As for the tranny discussion, I too was hoping the 6 speed used in the rest of the world's Evo8s came to the states because I was hoping it would be like the Corvette's tranny with the last (6th) gear being an overdrive. This way, we would have the existing 5 speed with another gear added on to that for lower RPMs while driving on the highway, in-turn helping us save gas.
How is the existing tranny at highway speeds? Does it maintain the RPMs too high?
Don't get me wrong, I love having short gearing like the tranny in my M Roadster. Whenever I need power, I simply drop the pedal and I'm off. But, although that's good for power delivery--at about 3500 RPMs@80mph
it's not so good on my wallet.How is the 6 speed geared anyway? Is it shorter than the existing 5-speed in every gear or does it use the last gear as an overdrive? From reading the posts before mine, I'm assuming it's not the latter.
May 24, 2003, 09:17 AM
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A six speed is nothing special only helps on the long trips just like cruise. If you can get by with no cruise then no 6th grear will not be a problem. I would get one only because it would save alittle for me on gas. I'm always on the highways. The extra cost may not even be worth it.
May 24, 2003, 09:22 AM
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If you want to conserve fuel in your Evo, do one thing: DON'T SPEED! It's that simple. Just leave it at 65-70mph for cruising and it will be fine. I don't speed and I get really good gas mileage, except in city, which I have to admit, does suck real bad.
May 24, 2003, 01:58 PM
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In my 6 speed, 6th is definately not an OD. I have a gear for every situation though.
I love my JDM sti 6 speed...just love it. I will never go back to a 5 speed.
I love my JDM sti 6 speed...just love it. I will never go back to a 5 speed.
May 24, 2003, 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by BADWRX
In my 6 speed, 6th is definately not an OD. I have a gear for every situation though.
I love my JDM sti 6 speed...just love it. I will never go back to a 5 speed.
In my 6 speed, 6th is definately not an OD. I have a gear for every situation though.
I love my JDM sti 6 speed...just love it. I will never go back to a 5 speed.
Anyways, I think 5speed is the best. More power in each gear.
May 25, 2003, 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by ESCALVANTE
Black Evo 8 & Crufty Dusty: Where can I pick up a copy of this video? Is it in English? BTW I'm SoCal.
Black Evo 8 & Crufty Dusty: Where can I pick up a copy of this video? Is it in English? BTW I'm SoCal.
May 25, 2003, 05:53 PM
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Just had a thought 
. Subaru may have placed the 6 speed on their car for fuel economy reasons since displacement is larger. It is a little odd that according to an article i have read, the 6 speed tranny of the 2.5 liter STi is the same as the 2.0 liter Sti. One can assume that the 6 speed tranny is really optimized for the lesser torq motor even though the article did not really emphasize on it. This is just a thought so please, no flames.
. Subaru may have placed the 6 speed on their car for fuel economy reasons since displacement is larger. It is a little odd that according to an article i have read, the 6 speed tranny of the 2.5 liter STi is the same as the 2.0 liter Sti. One can assume that the 6 speed tranny is really optimized for the lesser torq motor even though the article did not really emphasize on it. This is just a thought so please, no flames.
May 25, 2003, 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by TwiNpnOy84
6 speed is that good..huh?
Anyways, I think 5speed is the best. More power in each gear.
6 speed is that good..huh?
Anyways, I think 5speed is the best. More power in each gear.
I remember old Renault 4 used to have 3 gears and people were saying that 4 is too much, now same story with 6 gears...
May 25, 2003, 10:35 PM
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Yes, 6-speed boxes will go away soon, just like they disappeared from sportbikes after a trendy year or two.
A Civic HF ratio spread is just fine for a 150mph .29 Cd car...
Charles, with a touch of sarcasm showing through.
A Civic HF ratio spread is just fine for a 150mph .29 Cd car...
Charles, with a touch of sarcasm showing through.
May 25, 2003, 11:28 PM
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Well, Subaru's 6 speed is the same STOCK box the is running in every high performance GDB around the world. I have yet to hear of one breaking. It is considered bulletproof by the FHI engineers over in Japan. The Subaru 5 is know in Japan as the "Glass mission". The 6 speed AWD gearbox that is in the STi's is totally overbuilt. It was designed with the guidance of FHI's partner...Porsche...
Just FYI, and the 6 speed is the future my friends, not the past, and not a fad...
Just FYI, and the 6 speed is the future my friends, not the past, and not a fad...
May 26, 2003, 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Black_Evo_VIII
Just had a thought . Subaru may have placed the 6 speed on their car for fuel economy reasons since displacement is larger. It is a little odd that according to an article i have read, the 6 speed tranny of the 2.5 liter STi is the same as the 2.0 liter Sti. One can assume that the 6 speed tranny is really optimized for the lesser torq motor even though the article did not really emphasize on it. This is just a thought so please, no flames.
Just had a thought
. Subaru may have placed the 6 speed on their car for fuel economy reasons since displacement is larger. It is a little odd that according to an article i have read, the 6 speed tranny of the 2.5 liter STi is the same as the 2.0 liter Sti. One can assume that the 6 speed tranny is really optimized for the lesser torq motor even though the article did not really emphasize on it. This is just a thought so please, no flames.
But like with any cars, most of the problems typically results from driver errors and not with the car, especially with the tranny so.. it'll be hard to tell..
May 26, 2003, 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by wmcorcor
All the reviewers in the magazines that compared the two actually liked the Mitsu 5-speed better than the Subbie 6-speed saying it felt better and was easier to shift.
I'd rather a short-throw easy shifting 5-speed for now. At best it's about as important to me as Subbie's DCCD...an interesting feature that is not much more than a toy in every day driving.
All the reviewers in the magazines that compared the two actually liked the Mitsu 5-speed better than the Subbie 6-speed saying it felt better and was easier to shift.
I'd rather a short-throw easy shifting 5-speed for now. At best it's about as important to me as Subbie's DCCD...an interesting feature that is not much more than a toy in every day driving.
Also, DCCD is like ACD, useful if you know what you are doing. I put mine into fully locked mode today when I drove through a mile of hail covered mountain roads in a bad storm.
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Jul 4, 2003, 02:19 PM
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I am being told by a reliable source that the 6 speed gearbox as used on the JDM models is failing in competition use.
I guess it will be another year or 2 of development until you get it in the USA, if at all, especially since everybody knows how hard you guys are on the gearboxes with launches etc....
I guess it will be another year or 2 of development until you get it in the USA, if at all, especially since everybody knows how hard you guys are on the gearboxes with launches etc....