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Jan 16, 2007, 02:26 PM
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would it be a good idea if i put a ebc on my car if it's stock, because someone told me they recommend me getting a intake and exhaust first?
Jan 16, 2007, 02:31 PM
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do what you like.. a boost controller is a good first mod.. just cant up the boost til you mod more... which ever order you go.. atleast your not asking if you should put a ssq bov on first.. mbc..then exhuast.. exhuast then mbc.. do what you want..
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I'm going with an EBC first, because I want to get what the stock parts are fully capable of before changing any of them (if I ever do change any of them).
I've read threads where people have dyno'd big numbers with stock exhaust parts and stock intakes.
I've read threads where people have dyno'd big numbers with stock exhaust parts and stock intakes.
Jan 16, 2007, 02:41 PM
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That's a dangerous question, and one I don't like to see. People are always asking about max boost, which scares me.
To answer your first question, you don't do intake and exhaust first. The intake only hurts you in that case. The exhaust is never a negative, but it's positive effects depend on the other mods you do with it. Done alone (or with an intake), it's not very helpful for you on your IX. Done with an MBC and tune, it's monstrous. At no point do you need an intake until wayyyyyyy down the line. You can get one if you so desire, but never do one without a tune.
You asked me in the other thread what my suggestion was for mods, but I did not suggest an intake nor an EBC, just fyi. TBE, mbc + boost gauge, and tune = 60-70whp for very little money, none of which is wasted. The boost you run will depend on the exact mods, your location (altitude & climate), and the octane you use.
To answer your first question, you don't do intake and exhaust first. The intake only hurts you in that case. The exhaust is never a negative, but it's positive effects depend on the other mods you do with it. Done alone (or with an intake), it's not very helpful for you on your IX. Done with an MBC and tune, it's monstrous. At no point do you need an intake until wayyyyyyy down the line. You can get one if you so desire, but never do one without a tune.
You asked me in the other thread what my suggestion was for mods, but I did not suggest an intake nor an EBC, just fyi. TBE, mbc + boost gauge, and tune = 60-70whp for very little money, none of which is wasted. The boost you run will depend on the exact mods, your location (altitude & climate), and the octane you use.
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That's a dangerous question, and one I don't like to see. People are always asking about max boost, which scares me.
To answer your first question, you don't do intake and exhaust first. The intake only hurts you in that case. The exhaust is never a negative, but it's positive effects depend on the other mods you do with it. Done alone (or with an intake), it's not very helpful for you on your IX. Done with an MBC and tune, it's monstrous. At no point do you need an intake until wayyyyyyy down the line. You can get one if you so desire, but never do one without a tune.
You asked me in the other thread what my suggestion was for mods, but I did not suggest an intake nor an EBC, just fyi. TBE, mbc + boost gauge, and tune = 60-70whp for very little money, none of which is wasted. The boost you run will depend on the exact mods, your location (altitude & climate), and the octane you use.
To answer your first question, you don't do intake and exhaust first. The intake only hurts you in that case. The exhaust is never a negative, but it's positive effects depend on the other mods you do with it. Done alone (or with an intake), it's not very helpful for you on your IX. Done with an MBC and tune, it's monstrous. At no point do you need an intake until wayyyyyyy down the line. You can get one if you so desire, but never do one without a tune.
You asked me in the other thread what my suggestion was for mods, but I did not suggest an intake nor an EBC, just fyi. TBE, mbc + boost gauge, and tune = 60-70whp for very little money, none of which is wasted. The boost you run will depend on the exact mods, your location (altitude & climate), and the octane you use.
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1. its cheaper and does the same thing as an ebc.
2. only reason you buy an ebc is for its easy use inside the car..
3. mbc does same thing as ebc.. and cheaper.. but if money is not an object.. go with the ebc..
4. ebc i believe holds taper better
2. only reason you buy an ebc is for its easy use inside the car..
3. mbc does same thing as ebc.. and cheaper.. but if money is not an object.. go with the ebc..
4. ebc i believe holds taper better
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Warr actually ended up helping me greatly with this earlier. The purpose of a boost controller is to hold boost at a higher level than stock. EBC's are more porne to failure, and may even end up hurting the life of your tubo. MBC's hold boost in the same fashion as stock, with spikes and taper occuring. But with ebc's, you can mess with it to hold a steady boost until redline. Though you get more powergains out of it, it causes a lot of stress on your turbo. Plus, mbc's usually run in the $60-100 range, while ebc's can run well into the $250-300 range. Did I get all of that right Warr??
Jan 16, 2007, 02:58 PM
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Well, I don't want to go quite that far, PKEVO. An EBC can be properly setup to run very well without damaging anything. Most people don't know how to set them up properly, though, and then yes, they are more prone to failure due to all the electronics. That doesn't mean EBCs are bad. They just aren't worth all the money over an MBC to ME.