Organize Group Purchase for Winter Tires
Jun 9, 2003, 12:00 AM
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Put me down as another person interested in cheap wheels plus snow tires 
If they're just going to get gravel and salt thrown into them, I'd rather not get something showier than my summer rims.
If they're just going to get gravel and salt thrown into them, I'd rather not get something showier than my summer rims.
Jun 9, 2003, 12:05 AM
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After losing my Vortech supercharged '02 Mustang GT with only 4k miles on the odometer this last winter on nasty ice, I'm definately in for the first group purchase of winter tires and wheels! 
Jun 9, 2003, 11:28 AM
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If we can get a tire dealer to give us a group discount, would it matter to them if everyone bought the same brand and size of tire/wheel or would it only matter to them on the quantity of the purchase regardless of size and brand? If it was quantity, then everyone could order whatever they preferred.
Jun 9, 2003, 12:27 PM
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I'm thinking some thing more like this......... http://www.avsport.net/?pid=232
$ 120 for each rim, with a top snow tire for around $100 each, I think I will go with 205/65/15 or 195/65/15. I'm staying with some thiner tires, thay are much better in the snow
The whole deal could be had for around $ 880, Thats not to bad but I have to look into see if the rims will fit the EVO VIII ? I think thay do Thay fit IV,V,VI its all good..............
RALLY ON ////////////////////////
$ 120 for each rim, with a top snow tire for around $100 each, I think I will go with 205/65/15 or 195/65/15. I'm staying with some thiner tires, thay are much better in the snow
The whole deal could be had for around $ 880, Thats not to bad but I have to look into see if the rims will fit the EVO VIII ? I think thay do
Thay fit IV,V,VI its all good..............RALLY ON ////////////////////////
Jun 9, 2003, 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by TOMMY B
think I will go with 205/65/15 or 195/65/15. I'm staying with some thiner tires, thay are much better in the snow
think I will go with 205/65/15 or 195/65/15. I'm staying with some thiner tires, thay are much better in the snow
Are you going to do a brake downgrade to lancer stock brakes for the winter?
I agree that thinner and taller tires are much better for snowy/wet conditions and that is why I was going to go with 225/50's... maybe 205/60's? But I have a feeling you'll have to stick with 17" rims....
Jun 9, 2003, 12:40 PM
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Thats a can of corn,
I'm pretty sure that the Group N Wheels fit right over the Nice Brakes we have.
Most rally cars run 15" tires in the snow/mud anyway the link I posted above is from a rally related web page.
RALLY ON //////////////////
Jun 9, 2003, 01:00 PM
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The link above that you posted does not mention the Evo 8 (or the evo 7 as a matter of fact). Please show us a picture of an Evo 8 with 15" rims on it (or even 16's).
Disclaimer: I could be wrong, but I'll stick to my story unless I'm proven otherwise.
Disclaimer: I could be wrong, but I'll stick to my story unless I'm proven otherwise.
Jun 9, 2003, 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by TOMMY B
Thats a can of corn,
I'm pretty sure that the Group N Wheels fit right over the Nice Brakes we have.
Most rally cars run 15" tires in the snow/mud anyway the link I posted above is from a rally related web page.
RALLY ON //////////////////
Thats a can of corn,
I'm pretty sure that the Group N Wheels fit right over the Nice Brakes we have.
Most rally cars run 15" tires in the snow/mud anyway the link I posted above is from a rally related web page.
RALLY ON //////////////////
Jun 9, 2003, 01:19 PM
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...the braking requirement needed (forces generated) on dry asphalt are a little different for mud and snow. Hence the larger brakes larger rims/tyres for dry asphalt conditions.
Jun 9, 2003, 01:43 PM
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205/50/17's appear to be an alternative, especially if you get a narrower wheel. They are just a few tenths smaller in overall diameter.
Through Discount Tire you can get Semperit Sport Grip's (an old european brand now owned by Continental) in 235/45/HR17 size for $115.
Through Discount Tire you can get Semperit Sport Grip's (an old european brand now owned by Continental) in 235/45/HR17 size for $115.
Jun 9, 2003, 02:13 PM
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There is a bunch of bad info here. The rolling circumference must stay the same so it is necessary to downsize to a 16" if one opts for a taller, skinnier aspect ratio. That would be MUCH better in the snow. The 235/45/17, even with a Blizzak, would be very limited. The contact patch needs to be reduced significantly or the tires plane in snow, no mattter how good the tire.
A cheap *** steel wheel (painted black, hideous but cool in it's own utilitarian way) is far better than an alloy for the winter. LOTS stronger. Tire Rack will have a cheapo steel rim with the proper offset.
Just my opinion, but I've run through the Michelin Arpin, Dunlop, Blizzak, and Yokohama Guardex on all wheel drive sedans over the last ten years and the best tire in deeper snow is the Yoko because of it's aggressive tread pattern. It also wears well. The best Winter tire for slippery stuff overall is the Blizzak, no doubt. All these new generation snows have sipes to grip but only the Blizzak has the dual compound multicell (they invented it, they have a patent). There is a price to pay in wear, however. Two winters, three if you're lucky.
Just my two cents.
A cheap *** steel wheel (painted black, hideous but cool in it's own utilitarian way) is far better than an alloy for the winter. LOTS stronger. Tire Rack will have a cheapo steel rim with the proper offset.
Just my opinion, but I've run through the Michelin Arpin, Dunlop, Blizzak, and Yokohama Guardex on all wheel drive sedans over the last ten years and the best tire in deeper snow is the Yoko because of it's aggressive tread pattern. It also wears well. The best Winter tire for slippery stuff overall is the Blizzak, no doubt. All these new generation snows have sipes to grip but only the Blizzak has the dual compound multicell (they invented it, they have a patent). There is a price to pay in wear, however. Two winters, three if you're lucky.
Just my two cents.