Greddy E Manage
Jun 12, 2003, 10:20 PM
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Greddy E Manage
what are your guys thoughts on the Greddy Emanage system vs THe SAFC II and others systems. What do u guys run and what do u think works the best for a daily driver who wants to go fast?
Jun 12, 2003, 10:36 PM
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GReddy's E-manage allows a greater degree of add-ons and tuning precision, however I'm not sure how many Evos are using it at present or if anyone's had any successes with it.
I was originally going to use E-manage for my turbo Lancer, but after 6 weeks of backorders and a lot more patience than I should have exhibited I ended up going with the AEM EMS. For a piggyback though, the E-manage would be my weapon of choice (personally).
I was originally going to use E-manage for my turbo Lancer, but after 6 weeks of backorders and a lot more patience than I should have exhibited I ended up going with the AEM EMS. For a piggyback though, the E-manage would be my weapon of choice (personally).
Jun 12, 2003, 10:50 PM
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I imagine you could use the AEM EMS. It works on most DSM's. I plan on getting the e-Manage myself. I haven't done much tuning myself so I'm curious about the range offered by the e-manage. Specs say it can adjust injector duty by +/- 20% while the AFC goes up to 50%. 50% seems like a huge change that probably wouldn't ever get used but I'm not positive. Is the 20% adjustment enough for most uses?
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If you've got an AWD dyno at your becking call, go with the E-Manage.. You'll need it for a while to tune it.. But it works damn good from what I've seen... But a lot of tuning time is required..
Jun 13, 2003, 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by TaiwanEvo
do you think you can just copies someone elses setup and run from there..
do you think you can just copies someone elses setup and run from there..
SAFC - http://www.pruvenperformance.com/images/aldyno3.JPG
Enamage - http://www.pruvenperformance.com/images/aldyno4.JPG
You can see the peak HP is the same - However - the emanage allows you to adjust the timing curve to smooth out the areas where the stock car is seeing detonation (when you pull from the maf signal - karman - the cars moves to a more advanced ign curve which causes some detonation - thats why the originbal safc curve has so many dips)
Also - with the emanage - you can pump up the spool up and low end trq by advancing the timing - - you can see the amazing increase in trq at 3500 rpm
Finally the emamanage has much better resultion and a lot of extra and better features
I may be offering pre-programed emanages for sale in the future - - right now I am doing beta tests to see if i can develop a universal safe base map - will let you know in a couple of weeks - so far I am finding the emanage is VERY sensitive and makes big differnces with very small corrections so it may NOT be possible to share maps safely - - of course the issue will be how much HP you have to leave on the table while staying with something that is universally safe in all evos - - adding to this is the reality that there is a LOT of variance between different individial evos - anyway its a concept in the works - - in the meantime - I'm happy to share emanange maps with anyone who asks
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Jun 13, 2003, 10:21 PM
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COol , I might take you up on that offer to borrow a map. Im gonna order an e-manage but was a bit scheptical on my programing abilities. 390--thats plenty mustangs
Originally posted by Alfriedesq
First of all - for the general question of the post - - here are the results of the emanage vs. the SAFC - - on the same car - same mods - only differnce the two piggy backs
SAFC - http://www.pruvenperformance.com/images/aldyno3.JPG
Enamage - http://www.pruvenperformance.com/images/aldyno4.JPG
You can see the peak HP is the same - However - the emanage allows you to adjust the timing curve to smooth out the areas where the stock car is seeing detonation (when you pull from the maf signal - karman - the cars moves to a more advanced ign curve which causes some detonation - thats why the originbal safc curve has so many dips)
Also - with the emanage - you can pump up the spool up and low end trq by advancing the timing - - you can see the amazing increase in trq at 3500 rpm
Finally the emamanage has much better resultion and a lot of extra and better features
I may be offering pre-programed emanages for sale in the future - - right now I am doing beta tests to see if i can develop a universal safe base map - will let you know in a couple of weeks - so far I am finding the emanage is VERY sensitive and makes big differnces with very small corrections so it may NOT be possible to share maps safely - - of course the issue will be how much HP you have to leave on the table while staying with something that is universally safe in all evos - - adding to this is the reality that there is a LOT of variance between different individial evos - anyway its a concept in the works - - in the meantime - I'm happy to share emanange maps with anyone who asks
First of all - for the general question of the post - - here are the results of the emanage vs. the SAFC - - on the same car - same mods - only differnce the two piggy backs
SAFC - http://www.pruvenperformance.com/images/aldyno3.JPG
Enamage - http://www.pruvenperformance.com/images/aldyno4.JPG
You can see the peak HP is the same - However - the emanage allows you to adjust the timing curve to smooth out the areas where the stock car is seeing detonation (when you pull from the maf signal - karman - the cars moves to a more advanced ign curve which causes some detonation - thats why the originbal safc curve has so many dips)
Also - with the emanage - you can pump up the spool up and low end trq by advancing the timing - - you can see the amazing increase in trq at 3500 rpm
Finally the emamanage has much better resultion and a lot of extra and better features
I may be offering pre-programed emanages for sale in the future - - right now I am doing beta tests to see if i can develop a universal safe base map - will let you know in a couple of weeks - so far I am finding the emanage is VERY sensitive and makes big differnces with very small corrections so it may NOT be possible to share maps safely - - of course the issue will be how much HP you have to leave on the table while staying with something that is universally safe in all evos - - adding to this is the reality that there is a LOT of variance between different individial evos - anyway its a concept in the works - - in the meantime - I'm happy to share emanange maps with anyone who asks
Jun 15, 2003, 11:04 PM
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I may be offering pre-programed emanages for sale in the future - - right now I am doing beta tests to see if i can develop a universal safe base map - will let you know in a couple of weeks - so far I am finding the emanage is VERY sensitive and makes big differnces with very small corrections so it may NOT be possible to share maps safely - - of course the issue will be how much HP you have to leave on the table while staying with something that is universally safe in all evos - - adding to this is the reality that there is a LOT of variance between different individial evos - anyway its a concept in the works - - in the meantime - I'm happy to share emanange maps with anyone who asks [/B]
Hey Alan,
Did you get my voicemail? Looks like you're doing the emanage beta test w/o me...that's ok I decided to go w/ something else.
If anyone's interested in a brand new emanage w/ the ignition and injector harnesses, I'm willing to let it go for $330 shipped, PM me if interested.