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Old Jun 19, 2003, 02:44 PM
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there is a problem with this part involved in the 1-2 shift. i think its a plastic piece that engages something, my friend an evo tech told me its happened to about 10 evos US wide and the part is on back order. the failure of this part makes 1-2 shift grind and i think in extreme cases 1or2 is not even selectable. hope this helps. get on the phone with mitsubishi, thats ur best bet. IM GETTING NEW TIRES AND I DIDNT DO A PETITION...I ALREADY GOT NEW BRAKES (ROTORS AND PADS) AND I DIDNT DO A PETITION.... good luck with getting support, but i dont think its really needed. if your car has a verifiable problem like mine did (unlike what some people wanted to believe on this site) MITSU WILL FIX IT!!!!
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My Evo was built in feb 2003 and I have missed my 1-2 gear shift as well as now my 3-4 shift grinds everytime I try to shift above 6grand. I am afraid that if I try to bring the car into the dealer they will tell me nothing is wrong cause under normal driving it shifts fine. But I hate this tranny cause this is suposed to be an enthusiasts car. But you can't even drive it hard cause the tranny is gay.... does anyone know if the six speed is any better?
Old Jun 19, 2003, 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by ADMstunna
there is a problem with this part involved in the 1-2 shift. i think its a plastic piece that engages something, my friend an evo tech told me its happened to about 10 evos US wide and the part is on back order. the failure of this part makes 1-2 shift grind and i think in extreme cases 1or2 is not even selectable. hope this helps. get on the phone with mitsubishi, thats ur best bet. IM GETTING NEW TIRES AND I DIDNT DO A PETITION...I ALREADY GOT NEW BRAKES (ROTORS AND PADS) AND I DIDNT DO A PETITION.... good luck with getting support, but i dont think its really needed. if your car has a verifiable problem like mine did (unlike what some people wanted to believe on this site) MITSU WILL FIX IT!!!!
Unfortunately, I think you just happened to go to a really cool dealership. 3 dealerships and all say the same thing. It's by design so they won't replace it. Unless the tranny breaks or stops going in gear I'm stuck. BTW, I've heard from numerous reps now that Mitsu IS looking to void the warranties on these cars. They don't want to cover them which leads me to believe there might be some reliability issues. If you don't follow service procedures and maintenance they won't cover it. At least not without a fight. Some others have mentioned the same thing. Heck even a turbo timer will set their alarms off.
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Originally posted by EVO SPECIALIST
Hed braged about it,before he realized he told us the oposite not to mention his friends saying" what about that ss you raced and missed forth when you got it"
Someone should have just reach over the counter and pimp slapped his dumb ***

But I caught my dealer doing the same thing about metal shving in my tranny, first it didn't have any then they replaced it because it did (funny, they only checked the fluid once)....
Old Jun 20, 2003, 04:24 AM
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Hey Evil,

Don't mess with the dealers until you call mmusa and open a case with the vehicles department. As the vehicles department to check with techline (not sure if they can or if the dealer has to call maybee evospecialist can answer that) and see if there is any truth to the plastic part thing mentioned by stunna. (not calling you a liar man, but it would be great if your buddy the evo tech could get the part number and a techline case number) If you do go to a dealer, make sure they call techline and document what techline says about the issue. They should give you the techline case number on your work order.

Ohh my build date is Feb 2003 (I was looking at the wrong sticker)
Old Jun 20, 2003, 05:49 AM
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definitely mad8 - ill ask him about it again, i was in a rush and cant even remember the name of the part. he is waiting on the part to fix in his dealers demo evo8 that they gave test drives in. thats about the most messed up transmission i think. it didnt have any decelerating grinds, but it wont go in 4th and grinds 1-2. test drivers really beat the crap out of it and it died
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Things like these make me start to worry about my upcoming intended purchase I hope that this problem gets resolved
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Evilution instead of blaming Mitsu just learn how to drive.

Your transmission is not designed to "speed shift" with the flywheel and clutch spinning near redline. Try letting your RPMs drop before pushing it into 2nd and you should have no grinding.
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Hey mad VIII i'll do that,I'll post my number if you want and tell you what I found out what else should I ask for you guys
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If you guy want the # 616-481-0414,I have a yellow,built feb.no probs.
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Evilution instead of blaming Mitsu just learn how to drive.

Your transmission is not designed to "speed shift" with the flywheel and clutch spinning near redline. Try letting your RPMs drop before pushing it into 2nd and you should have no grinding
Unless you really know how he drives I wouldn't blame his driving or speedshifting on it. The Evo's tranny IS capable of handling higher hp and speedshifts. I'm sure some people that are trying it probably don't know what they are doing and are hurting their tranny's/synchro's I don't know if that's the case with Evilution though.
The US tranny was designed for increased strength over the j-spec VII's 5 speed. Mitsu. beefed it up and added the synchros because they know Americans are harder on cars...1/4 mile racing and high rpm launches are the most popular form of racing here. So I wouldn't blame a weak tranny either. It's not.
I have drag raced for 15 years or so and when I first speed/powershifted from a high rpm launch in the Evo I got a grind. I immediately felt the tranny wasn't engaging properly with a straight back shift. So I tried it again with a slight pull to the left and all is good. The tranny has no problems being speedshifted into any gear now. I also felt that the tranny wasn't fully broken-in because of the notchiness in 1-2, 2-3..so I kept from sppedshifting for the most part until it started to feel smooth. I missed my first autox event because the Evo only had 800 miles and I felt the tranny needed more time. Now, with several autox events and many high rpm speedshifts it's great. I just hope it holds up. I hate to play around with dealers and warranty work. You never know what to expect.
BTW, for anyone wondering the j-spec VIII 6-speed is NOT stronger. It is made in the same casing...so think about it..the internal parts aren't as beefy. THAT is why it isn't in the US VIII. They didn't want to have issues with an unproven tranny. They simply left off the parts they felt may be a warranty nightmare. I was told this from a good source. This includes the 6-speed and the ayc/acd system.
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Originally posted by Evilution
The various methods of shifting I tried with this car. The number of OTHER people that have had the same problem. I'll be damned if I let a car dictate the way I drive over my having control of how I want to drive. Now you see I KNOW how to drive. That's the difference between you and I. You let the car dictate what's going to happen. The car makes you it's *****. You'll never get the full potential of any car like that. So have fun shifting slowly and losing races. I'll stick with my guns until it is fixed or I get a new car. Simple as that.
So you want to force your car to behave in a way it wasn't designed to behave? Mitsu did not design your car for dragracing. They certainly didn't design the transmission to enter a higher gear with the clutch still spinning near redline. The synchros will slow the clutch down but it takes time. You can still get the full potential out of your car without abusing it like it sounds like you do.

But what do I know? I let my car dictate what is going to happen. But you see I have a good transmission in my car. And I can shift it quickly, with no problems.
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thats gangsta. mary kate drives a supra!!! damn. talk about noises when shifting, supras make that funky *** thud when shifting, wut the hell is up with that. i wonder if ashley is a better driver than mary kate?

ive figure this grind thing out - after i drive my car hard and the trans temp is high - when im banging the gears HARD - i mean not messing around - it never grinds. when you are dedicated and focused it never grinds for me. try that yall, dont try speeding and fast shifting when your listening to music and lookin out the window pimpin it, try it when your focused. step on the cltuch pedal mad hard and bang second, bang third, like literally bang that **** in - ive been doing that and it dont grind. i do it so fast now that lag between shifts is practically gone. but its gotta be hard, firm grip.
Old Jun 22, 2003, 09:16 PM
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To answer both girly man and ADMStunna, I used to drive a modified 97 TT Supra. Heck, there's only like 2% that aren't modified now. The getrag tranny in the Supra BLOWS away the tranny in the Evo. That thud you were hearing is from badly timed clutch releases during shifts. I almost never got the thud after a week of owning the car. Smooth as butta.

I'm tired of reitterating myself about the tranny. It's a damn race car and should behave as such. Race cars are designed to allow more abusive habits such as speed shifting for minimal time loss on the TRACK! Doesn't matter if it's dirt, straight line, auto-x, whatever! No race car was ever designed for granny shifting. So keep thinking that [NO ACCUSATORY NAME CALLING. GROW UP!]. Do you own an Evo? You only have the Supra in your sig which tells me you don't know jack about this car.

Stunna, I've tried what you describe and it doesn't help man. In fact it makes it worse. It grinds easier and with a hard shift it almost feels like the stick is literally bending until I let it back out.

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Just to throw some gasoline on the fire, here's what I found.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...threadid=27696



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