Watch out ! Evo police
Jun 19, 2003, 12:30 PM
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Korum Mits was streight up I know they made the boycott list but they must have encountered wrong person I got a good deal at the time considering several folks payed 5k over. Great head tech there he is actually a competitive drag racer. I recommend them very good.
Jun 19, 2003, 12:34 PM
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Re: Re: Watch out ! Evo police
Originally posted by evomadness
You are all wrong. Mitsu dealers want you to service your vehicle at their dealership even for warranty work because they get paid for it. They won't trick you to get you to have to pay out of your pocket! And when you have a problem with the dealer its not a problem with all of mitsu its just the jerk dealer. This car is meant to perform but not to be nuetral dropped and ran sideways.
James Barrett
Healey Mitsubishi
Goshen, NY
You are all wrong. Mitsu dealers want you to service your vehicle at their dealership even for warranty work because they get paid for it. They won't trick you to get you to have to pay out of your pocket! And when you have a problem with the dealer its not a problem with all of mitsu its just the jerk dealer. This car is meant to perform but not to be nuetral dropped and ran sideways.
James Barrett
Healey Mitsubishi
Goshen, NY
Jun 19, 2003, 12:53 PM
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There are a lot of a-holes in dealerships at the sales and management level. It's just the nature of the business, hence the car salesman jokes.
Due to shop economics there are good technicians and bad, that's the way it goes. Hopefully you can manage to find a good one at your dealership and request them when you go in. You can do that you know.
I personally don't like anyone working on my car but me, then again I don't let anyone drive my car either. Therefore I will try to never go back to the dealership. They give themselves a bad reputation because usually it's the service advisor who is the *******, he does have to hear it day in and day out from every *** that walks in the door. How would you be? There are a lot of ******* customers that like to just spout off and then there are people who genuinely care about there car. To the dealer though they get jaded and don't car either way. They are also not paid very well so that doesn't help.
And before any dealership employees jump on what I've said you can Bl*w me, cause I did it for 9 years and I don't want to hear it. I got out becuase I got sick of fixing other peoples comebacks and jackazz service writers. Fortunately I worked at a Saturn dealer most of that time and at least we took care of the customers and for the most part they were happy. We also hired anyone to sell because we did not want the typical car salesmen.
Oh tell that dealer to go screw themselves and if they don't have any proof of you racing that is liable/slander and they have no right unless they want to see thier asses in court. Maybe that will teach them. I am the last person to be letigious but I had people like that.
Okay, off the soap box.
Due to shop economics there are good technicians and bad, that's the way it goes. Hopefully you can manage to find a good one at your dealership and request them when you go in. You can do that you know.
I personally don't like anyone working on my car but me, then again I don't let anyone drive my car either. Therefore I will try to never go back to the dealership. They give themselves a bad reputation because usually it's the service advisor who is the *******, he does have to hear it day in and day out from every *** that walks in the door. How would you be? There are a lot of ******* customers that like to just spout off and then there are people who genuinely care about there car. To the dealer though they get jaded and don't car either way. They are also not paid very well so that doesn't help.
And before any dealership employees jump on what I've said you can Bl*w me, cause I did it for 9 years and I don't want to hear it. I got out becuase I got sick of fixing other peoples comebacks and jackazz service writers. Fortunately I worked at a Saturn dealer most of that time and at least we took care of the customers and for the most part they were happy. We also hired anyone to sell because we did not want the typical car salesmen.
Oh tell that dealer to go screw themselves and if they don't have any proof of you racing that is liable/slander and they have no right unless they want to see thier asses in court. Maybe that will teach them. I am the last person to be letigious but I had people like that.
Okay, off the soap box.
Jun 19, 2003, 01:00 PM
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OK #1 stop generalizing and be more specific,The dealer I work for kicks ***.We fix things when it is clear as day the customer beat the **** out the car,we have a black evo getting gears replaced,after he raced it and ran it w/the water sprayer dry,and the tires look like they have 8000 miles when it only three.I feel bad that you guys got one of the bad dealer but ****,you make the goodones look like the bad and I don't apprecate that so please be specific,OR GO BUY A FORD
Jun 19, 2003, 01:06 PM
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My car is being serviced now at Bellevue Mitsubishi. Great people, great service. Complete opposite of Walker. Now I dont expect Mitsu to cover parts on my car if I pushed it beyond it's performance envelope. However, I paid a huge premium, compared to a regular compact sedan to buy the Evo and I intend (as most Evo drivers do) to explore it's performance. Otherwise, I would have bought a Lancer or a Civic.
Jun 19, 2003, 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by jman425
My car is being serviced now at Bellevue Mitsubishi. Great people, great service. Complete opposite of Walker. Now I dont expect Mitsu to cover parts on my car if I pushed it beyond it's performance envelope. However, I paid a huge premium, compared to a regular compact sedan to buy the Evo and I intend (as most Evo drivers do) to explore it's performance. Otherwise, I would have bought a Lancer or a Civic.
My car is being serviced now at Bellevue Mitsubishi. Great people, great service. Complete opposite of Walker. Now I dont expect Mitsu to cover parts on my car if I pushed it beyond it's performance envelope. However, I paid a huge premium, compared to a regular compact sedan to buy the Evo and I intend (as most Evo drivers do) to explore it's performance. Otherwise, I would have bought a Lancer or a Civic.
(the car being serviced).
Jun 19, 2003, 01:18 PM
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I stand corrected. I'm glad that Hobie and Jman are having/ did have positive experiences with their dealerships. I can say with all certanty that my (former) dealership is next to impossible to work with.
Jun 19, 2003, 01:19 PM
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I have heard of bellevue good dealership jman glad your telling of your good experence there,Customer servce is of the upmost importance.And for the record my store thinks markups is bull ****
Jun 19, 2003, 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by EVO SPECIALIST
OK #1 stop generalizing and be more specific,The dealer I work for kicks ***.We fix things when it is clear as day the customer beat the **** out the car,we have a black evo getting gears replaced,after he raced it and ran it w/the water sprayer dry,and the tires look like they have 8000 miles when it only three.I feel bad that you guys got one of the bad dealer but ****,you make the goodones look like the bad and I don't apprecate that so please be specific,OR GO BUY A FORD
OK #1 stop generalizing and be more specific,The dealer I work for kicks ***.We fix things when it is clear as day the customer beat the **** out the car,we have a black evo getting gears replaced,after he raced it and ran it w/the water sprayer dry,and the tires look like they have 8000 miles when it only three.I feel bad that you guys got one of the bad dealer but ****,you make the goodones look like the bad and I don't apprecate that so please be specific,OR GO BUY A FORD
I don't argue there are good dealerships. More often then not it's good technicians that make a good dealership. Realisitically it's the technicians decision wether to bring it to the attention of the manager, etc. if it looks like the car was beat on. The dealer get's paid either way. **** I've fixed cars out of warranty and had it covered for the people because it was a clear defect. I don't think I ever turned anyone down for modding a car, just stupidity. Like oh I am supposed to change or check the oil. I generalized that most dealers suck because they do! There are plenty of good dealers out there but they are not always easy to find. What do you do at the dealer?
I know you can't argue how dealers can be both internally and with the customers. If you do then you need to work in more dealers cause there is a lot of BS out there. More so then a lot of businesses. I get sick of hearing everyone complain about dealerships because I know there are good ones out there and most don't know it because they so happen to have gotten a bad one. I still believe the dealer is the best place to get a car repaired.
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Some dealerships will be good and some bad, and the tough part is finding out the hard way which is which! My dealership seems pretty decent, and the service manager has a highly modded SS Camaro, so he understands the need for speed.
That said, I would never discuss any kind of mods, or racing (street or track)with anyone from any dealership because no matter how cool they are, you just don't know what will come back to bite you later.
Btw EVO SPECIALIST -Determining heavy wear and tear on a car can be difficult to accurately judge. Your tire and I/C sprayer comments are an example of what makes me nervous about dealerships, and heres why.
1)We already know that a few EVO's that have been taken in early for performance alignments have been found to be way out of alignment whack from the factory with major toe and camber issues. This will chew a set of tires up fairly quickly, particularly if the tires are close to R compound in tread softness as the Advans are.
Not saying the driver isn't driving the car in a sporting manner because thats what the EVO is designed for, but at 3k miles the tires are just now ready for rotating so who knows whats really behind that wear for sure? Maybe worth looking into the alignment as opposed to simply assuming that the customer just beats his car to ****?
2)As far as the I/C sprayer running dry, I just don't get it I guess. The I/C sprayer might be a useful accessory to drop charge air temps a little bit, but running one dry doesn't mean the cars being abused.
The reservoir for the sprayer is pretty small, so I can imagine if someone left it on auto too much, or used it a lot it in manual mode quite a bit it would be empty frequently.I mean its not like you are running your car without oil, or tranny fluid.
I personally have never even used my I/C sprayer once, because I never push my car hard for any lengthy period of time. Does this mean I am causing undue wear on my car? I have been around tuned turbo cars for a long time so no one needs to reply ....I already know the answer.
jman425 were you the one that started having problems after the tranny fluid was replaced?
As I mentioned before, these kinds of issues don't typically just pop-up after maintenance on a related item.
As long as you are being straight about not having the problem until you got the car back(and I assume you are), I would hold my ground firmly as coincindences like that just don't happen too often.
Good luck with your issue!
That said, I would never discuss any kind of mods, or racing (street or track)with anyone from any dealership because no matter how cool they are, you just don't know what will come back to bite you later.
Btw EVO SPECIALIST -Determining heavy wear and tear on a car can be difficult to accurately judge. Your tire and I/C sprayer comments are an example of what makes me nervous about dealerships, and heres why.
1)We already know that a few EVO's that have been taken in early for performance alignments have been found to be way out of alignment whack from the factory with major toe and camber issues. This will chew a set of tires up fairly quickly, particularly if the tires are close to R compound in tread softness as the Advans are.
Not saying the driver isn't driving the car in a sporting manner because thats what the EVO is designed for, but at 3k miles the tires are just now ready for rotating so who knows whats really behind that wear for sure? Maybe worth looking into the alignment as opposed to simply assuming that the customer just beats his car to ****?
2)As far as the I/C sprayer running dry, I just don't get it I guess. The I/C sprayer might be a useful accessory to drop charge air temps a little bit, but running one dry doesn't mean the cars being abused.
The reservoir for the sprayer is pretty small, so I can imagine if someone left it on auto too much, or used it a lot it in manual mode quite a bit it would be empty frequently.I mean its not like you are running your car without oil, or tranny fluid.
I personally have never even used my I/C sprayer once, because I never push my car hard for any lengthy period of time. Does this mean I am causing undue wear on my car? I have been around tuned turbo cars for a long time so no one needs to reply ....I already know the answer.
jman425 were you the one that started having problems after the tranny fluid was replaced?
As I mentioned before, these kinds of issues don't typically just pop-up after maintenance on a related item.
As long as you are being straight about not having the problem until you got the car back(and I assume you are), I would hold my ground firmly as coincindences like that just don't happen too often.
Good luck with your issue!
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You are right I have worked in a few of them,I have been a servce wrighter now a sales man I love my job,I love going into service and helping trouble shot a problem,I like no I LOVE,showing the customer we care, I love when they tell there friends and family about.I like that fact we have sold 4 evolutions off of reffearls and not one of them has had a problem.So is the car-maybe-is the driver-more than likely-will car have problem weather its a viper or a kia-absolutly-is human to point the finger and say you all suck-yes-is easy to find the wrong in a few and asume its all- sure-is it easy to look for the good-HELL NO!!!
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Originally posted by original_majin
hahaha I remeber getting a call like that from mitsu and they said they'll change my oil for free!!! But I hate those basterds over there. They screwed me over on the Evo (paid 37,000 for it) and then after they screwed me on that they tricked me into a $1200 POS alarm. But I canceled the check 
after I found out what a POS that alarm was. I ended up paying them $600 for the Lojack and alarm.
hahaha I remeber getting a call like that from mitsu and they said they'll change my oil for free!!! But I hate those basterds over there. They screwed me over on the Evo (paid 37,000 for it) and then after they screwed me on that they tricked me into a $1200 POS alarm. But I canceled the check after I found out what a POS that alarm was. I ended up paying them $600 for the Lojack and alarm.
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"neutral drop" lol... yo... we dont drive automatic cars smart guy from the dealership "James Barrett Healey Mitsubishi
Goshen, NY" how are u driving an evo demo and dont even kno what a neutral drop is lol your evo demo came in automatic? hahahaha
Goshen, NY" how are u driving an evo demo and dont even kno what a neutral drop is lol your evo demo came in automatic? hahahaha