the only way electric cars are going to solve anything is if hydrogen fuel sells can be made to work.

E85 is a nice idea, but what do you guys think most of the alcohol is made from??? you geust it, oil! and there was a studdy that said for all the cars in the world to run on E85, there would be no room to grow any food!

the cooking oil thing has been done for a while. oil diesels do it best. with the newer stuff its harder as they are much more highly strung than the oil deisels.

the near future will basically be tighter and thigher emmsions regs.

Chris.

 

wont be going in for an engine oil change. You'll be getting a comm cut.

Performance upgrade would be stepping up to BL powered motors, deans plugs and LIPO. .

 

rechargable brake systems are commonly known as regenerative braking systems. and you would be foolish to make a hybid without it. it doesn't use the friction of the brakes to make electricity though, it instead turns the electric motor to generate electricity. electric motors that drive the car, double as an alternator, and when you use them to generate electricity, they get VERY hard to turn, which is what slows your vehicle down when using the system. obviously they still use the regular brakes though.


cars that run off cooking oil, or commonly known as biofuel, or bio diesel are gaining popularity as well. basically used cooking oil is filtered and put in the gas tank of a diesel vehicle. it runs the same way it would with just regular diesel.

 

actually, the alcohol does not come from oil. it comes from corn, or other bio products.

 

i was informed that MOST insutrial alcohol is made from oil. you can get BIO stuff. was i mis informed???

Chris.

 

As far as pure tuning for current motors we'll see a lot more advances in ECU technology. The Computer controls on even the EVO are still very basic.

We'll see adaptive tuning that can essentially modify maps on the fly using fuzzy logic. More sensors built in with improved sampling for REAL TIME optomizations of fuel and timing for current driving/atmosphere conditions.

Tuners will look at the car from a higher level giving the ECU's more "guidelines" of how to behave instead of telling it to use X gas at X load cell every time.

These optomiztions will give us the ability to really program the ecu's the way programmers do their work on other software projects. Lots more decision making and a lot less hard coding.

 

prius on ethanol.

 

Dude you cant spell for sht!

You just said E85 is made out of oil and a study said if all cars ran on it there would be no room to grow food. Now how does that make ANY sense???

 

Electric motors are awesome. The performance is awesome. The low weight of the motor is even awesome. However, the power source, is not so awesome. We currently have no way of efficiently storing electricity in a compact and lightweight form. The batteries used to store energy weigh WAY to much for how little energy they can store. Racing these types of high performance electric motors would require SWAPPING HUGE *** batteries instead of refueling. Why is this? Per weight, we can store more energy in combustible fuel sources (alcohol, hyrdrogen, petrol, etc.) than in our current form of batteries. If we are able to somehow create a battery that is able to store more energy, in a smaller amount of space, the combustion engine will have no use except maybe as a museum exhibit. Bottom line, our battery technology still sucks, even though we have the power output (electric motors) now available.

Show me a electrically powered car with over 300 HP that can lap Tsukuba 50 times without stopping for more juice.

 

I agree with you 100% on this issue. That is why i posted up this thread. what do the guys that do this for a living think will happen if all cars end up going electric. every other alternate fuel source like e85 and hyrdogen seem to me as only temporary "quick fixes" if you will. as far as i know, the hydrogen for hydrogen powered cars comes from methane, which comes from oil. All of it leads back to the oil issue, which may become a resource that we may not be able to rely on anymore. I don't if any of you guys know who Nikola Tesla is, but he was an inventor back around Edisons time. Well, he was trying to figure out a way to store electrical power coming from lightning. haha imagine cars powered by that electrical charge

 

Well, we already have anti gravity. why would you bother with electric when we dont even need tires any more?
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this was back in 1979, imagine what we can do now with it? Back then you needed about 70-80 watts to lift 75 pounds. Now, you only need 20 watts to lift 2000 pounds. So, what it boils down to is, what do we use to propell the car? Well, for the street racer, I see something along the lines of pod racing from starwars. God that would own!!!

 

Definately the inclusion of Ion sensing technology, along with the ability for aftermarket ion sensing systems.

 

ahh i understand now. thanks for the breakdown.

ok so ive been reading about biofuels but it seems some people arent in favor of it but i dont understand why. wouldnt it be a good idea? and how would biofuels affect us in the tuner world?

 

I just have never thought the idea of bio fueled vehicles was that realistic. It works sure, but how many of us are going to want to go through the efforts and labor to acquire the oil, strain and clean the oil, and then retrofit a bio-fueled compatible system into our diesels? It just seems like a hippy dream.

 

dude stop bing a tool! and i dont need some *ss to tell me my spelling is cr*p!

i said most alky at present is made from oil! now im not saying that this could not change in the future. with GM crops and more work there is no dupt that we couldn't effectivly make 85% of E85 from crops (the 15% has to come from oil at the mo but that might beable to be substituted later on), but to run all the cars in the world on it you wouldn't have enough room for food!

Chris.