nastea

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i guess only time will tell, however i don't think mitsu even if they go to the colt, i'm pretty sure they'll stick w/ 4g63

MrMeaner

Dude, those problems aren't **** compared to the false advertising suites that are going to be filed if you think they are taking a dump. I have yet to hear an add on the radio that didn't state the fact that was the fastest growing Japanese car company in the USA. If this is true and what YOU say is true, then Honda and everyone else must be filing for chapter 11. If what you say is true and what says in their commercials isn't, then like I said they better get their lawyers ready. Giant corporations aren't careless enough to say some serious **** like that unless it's true. They might as well say their cars never break down. Check your sources, I don't think they in the ****ter as much as you think.

MrMeaner

WTF are you talking about!
Dude whatever you are smoking, pass it along cause you've got some killer visuals. Which bulky fat-*** lump of weight BMW did the copy for the galant. I would really like to know.

RaX

Maybe this is how the Evo is gonna Evolve:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...threadid=15679

I4K20C

that would be awsome!!! Whatever happend to "themothership"???

RaX

Probably got too many PMs and emails, and was scared off...

GPTourer

The "growth" that they are referring to is growth in sales. Their 7% increase in sales put them ahead of the rest of auto industry in units. It doesn't mean that they are bigger then all the other companies, just showed more of an increase in that period of time.

The revenue that they lost because of those programs is another story. I could sell 5000 units (insert whatever product you want) at my company at a $1 profit. Let's say my previous output was 2500 units with a $4 profit. Over at your company lets say you sold 230,000 units at a $5 profit, over your last years output of 225,000 units.

My company experienced a 100% increase in sales. Yours only grew by 2%. I got $5000 dollars worth of revenue,which is actually down from last years $100,000. You got 1,115,000. I can say all day long that my company is growing faster then yours, but it doesn't mean I sell more units or I'm bigger.

Relax. There will be no lawsuits about those ads.

evomk8

Waaay too much going on in this thread.
Evospecialist, there never was a 1.8l engine in the EVO.
The cost associated with putting a TC/IC 4G64 into the EVO just for the U.S. market would be prohibitive and counter logic given 's current condition. In addition, the 4G64 would need to undergo weight reduction, testing of internals under boost, possible block reinforcements, etc. Just too expensive.
The turbo OUtlander will be launched in Europe and may see the light in the U.S.
I'd love to see a DOHC 3.8l V6 6G75, but the engine needs to loose some serious weight first. MIVEC might be nice, but it too adds weight.

Kazoo's1st Evo8

Like i said earlier, dont listen to him, He is not an EVO SPECIALIST, he simply works for Mitsubishi sales and has NO special Mitsubishi under cover agents working for him that would know of this
He's not part of the MCIA (Mitsubishi Central Intelligence Agency)
hehhehehehhehe

Kazoo's1st Evo8

sorry that wasnt very funny, but yea this thread does need to come to an end!!

JNasty4G63

Ok, let me start by first saying that, yes I do like the 4G63 a lot, its a great motor and I love the one I have. But, I'm no diehard. I don't really care if they do come up with something new. Its about time they did. Yes, its a great motor, for sure. But, its old. Engines are just like everything. They're new for a while, then technology advances, and the motor isn't so cutting edge anymore. Just look at the LT1 from GM, the B-Series from Honda, the VG30 and SR20 at Nissan, and the old 13B at Mazda. All of those were fantastic engines, and still are, but they aren't cutting edge anymore. The LS1 and LS6, the VQ35 and QR25, the K-Series, and the new Renesis Rotary all replaced those engines. They weren't bad engines, just not modern.

And, with modern engineering, you can build better motors that can do lots of those things better. Better emissions, better mileage, more power, and better reliability. Sure, at first people cry and say "Why fix what aint broken" when its true. But, now in the modern age, you can build a better motor that can be tuned to power many different cars, with just mild engineering differences. That saves everyone money, which is good. Honda is a good example. The old B-Series was a fantastic line of engines. They had many different variations of that motor powering everything from Civics to CRVs to Integra Type Rs. And, just when the aftermarket was really getting some legs and the B-Series was getting figured out very well, they come out with the new K-Series. Everyone booo'd and hissed, until they actually started to realize that its a great new engine with tons of potential.

BMW and M-Benz are another good example of engine sharing being put to good use. Both of them basically have 3 or 4 engines (AMG and //Mcars not included). You have a 6-cyl of some sort, a diesel of some sort, a V8, and a V12 . Then, you make all of your cars accept a couple versions of those engines and put them to use. You get better engines out of it because they aren't specially built for individual cars. And, that saves everyone money. I mean, the BMW 4.4 V8 is in the 5-series, the 7-series, the X5, and the new Range Rover. M-Benz uses the same 5.0 V8 in the CL, CLK, E, S, SL, and ML to great effect.

So, as you can see, just because they might, or might not have a new motor coming, its not always bad. I for one, can't wait to see what they come up with if they do have something new cooking. That doesn't mean I don't like the 4G63 I have now, I'm just a big fan of advancing (or evolving ) technology. Newer isn't always better, but it very rarely is worse (2G ---> 3G Eclipse not withstanding ). Lets just see where it goes from here and enjoy the progress.

Hilg

EVO SPECIALIST

kazoo1stevo,I know that kid, #1 thats the kid that blew up hs tranny,they were not going to cover it,esspecally after they open it up this and see that it has been missed use-BASICLY HE CANT DRIVE,but wanted to put it on the car.He smased up the front and said he hit somthing on the highway,I'll post a pic of his intercooler later today since i'm back and you guy tell me what you think.Not hatein or anything,I'm sure he will be a good driver,--When he buys his own car and not beat up hs dads

GPTourer

Okay but look at those examples. A lot of those old engines HAD to go away because of emissions. Mitsubishi was just about the only company able to keep their old motor without dumping it for a newer design. Maybe it is still too early to tell, but just about every Nissan tuner would tell you they'd much rather tune an old SR20DE or DET then the new 2.5L in Spec V. The car has been out for quite some time and there still isn't major support for it. It just doesn't rev as high or have quite the bottom end strength. Of course a VG30DETT has a lot more potential then the new VQ series. It goes on an on, at least Mitsubishi was able to keep their turbo motor and sell it even in this country. Then you heard all the Subaru guys talking smack about 2.5L this and more displacement that, and now their new and improved motor won't run on 91 without pinging, and some people get pinging on 93 and 94!

I'm glad they have the luxury of deciding wether they need a new engine yet rather then being forced too, rather then seeing their pride and joy disappear because of "progress"

A moment of silence for the passing of the SR20DE(T), VG30DETT, RB26DETT, 13BTT, 2JZ-GTE, 3SGTE.

Long live the 4G63T.

ShapeGSX

Best quote ever!

N/A

Considering that the new turbo 2.5L motor is a totally new design its actually doing fairly well. Its got nothing in common with the orignal EJ25 motor. Odds are the reported pinging problem (which still hasn't been completely proven) is ECU related not due to mechanicals. Nissan stopped the turbo motors because of the conversion to a CA style emissions test as well as Renault now calling the shots since taking over Nissan. Not to mention that Nissan admitted to losing money on every GTR sold and that they only sold 5,000 worldwide in its final year. I used to have an old 93 Nissan GTI-R and that motor was amazingly strong. Too bad Nissan was forced to shut that production down.