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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Bone stock average drivers run mid-high 11s and good drivers run low 11's in a c6z. There is a guy by the name of Ranger on corvetteforum who went 10.89 @ 127 on a BONE STOCK C6Z, the only mod being drag radials, he is the exception and not the rule because he has well over 500 passes between his old c5z & new c6z combined. With basic bolt-on's (intake, tune, exhaust) and good driving mid-high tens @ 130 are not a problem.

As far as a road course goes it would be totally driver dependent. IMO an EVO is much easier to control and make use of all the power if it was your first time out compared to a Z06.

For the purposes of this post I'll say that 1/4 mile times on drag slicks or drag radials don't count. Your not going to see many people driving to work on drag radials. From what I've seen a new ZO6 will run around 11.7 in the quarter on stock tires with a good driver. I'm sure some may run a tenth or two faster, but realistically most will be slower.

The 1/4 mile part of the question is definitely the easiest part to answer. Assuming equal driving abilities and familiarity with the vehicles would a good coilover setup from a knowledgeable tuner (robispec, muellerized) be sufficient to hang with the ZO6 in an autocross or road race environment? Obviously this will be purely speculation unless someone actually tested the cars.
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
after the quarter mile the zo6 is an animal you will ned a 35r for the top end but the quarter is diffrent...
I agree
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jenx1976
check this one out....but im confused...i thought the fq400 is faster than the murcielago????
http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonb...times/thestig/
The murcielago is #14 and the FQ400 is #21 on the list you just linked to.

Here is a link to the video I was referring to in my original post...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQGotlRI0k4


Interesting to note that the ZO6 actually ran the course 1.3 seconds faster than the Lamborghini. Maybe the lambo would be an easier target!
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
after the quarter mile the zo6 is an animal you will ned a 35r for the top end but the quarter is diffrent...
True
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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It is yet to be determined if the X will be better or worse in different aspects versus the IX, but I should have roughly $8k to work with for the motor and suspension. That would be more than enough to destroy the ZO6 in the quarter, but it wouldn't leave much to work with in the handling department. Can't wait 'till spring so I can get a better idea of exactly what I will have to work with.
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
i doubt it will run low 11's on the stock tires correct me if im wrong...
You're wrong.

As you can see from this link:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--...l?resultpage=3

there are several bone stock (to include tires) C6 Z06s running low 11s in the quarter. With DRs alone they are hitting high 10s.

Underestimating the C6 Z06 is the last thing you guys should be doing.
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
after the quarter mile the zo6 is an animal you will ned a 35r for the top end but the quarter is diffrent...
Are you serious? Low 11s in the 1/4 bone stock is nothing to sneeze at. There aren't too many production line vehicles that can do the same thing. The C6 Z06 is an animal all the way around.

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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 04tarmacEVO
For the purposes of this post I'll say that 1/4 mile times on drag slicks or drag radials don't count. Your not going to see many people driving to work on drag radials. From what I've seen a new ZO6 will run around 11.7 in the quarter on stock tires with a good driver. I'm sure some may run a tenth or two faster, but realistically most will be slower.
Again, check this link and you will see that you have the wrong understanding.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--...l?resultpage=3
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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ya 11's is serious in the quarter but you can get stock turbo evo's running in the 11's to,any way the one i raced was not the new body the older zo6....but the gearing in the car makes the top end crazy thats were the car really shines
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
ya 11's is serious in the quarter but you can get stock turbo evo's running in the 11's to,any way the one i raced was not the new body the older zo6....but the gearing in the car makes the top end crazy thats were the car really shines
I know that you can hit 11s in the EVO with the stock turbo. No doubt there.
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Again, check this link and you will see that you have the wrong understanding.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet--...l?resultpage=3


I'll give credit where credit is due. I was already well aware of how badass the ZO6 was (I will own one as soon as I find $75k laying around), but those guys running 11.2's have got some serious driving skills! That is a half second faster than the times listed by motortrend, car and driver, etc. that I had been going by. Huge thumbs up to those guys! I'm impressed.

Looks like I may have to set my bar a bit lower. I don't think my modest budget is going to get an EVO X that deep into the 11's and still have anything left over for a proper suspension setup. Oh well, watch out Mustang GT500!!!
Old Sep 1, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 04tarmacEVO
I'll give credit where credit is due. I was already well aware of how badass the ZO6 was (I will own one as soon as I find $75k laying around), but those guys running 11.2's have got some serious driving skills! That is a half second faster than the times listed by motortrend, car and driver, etc. that I had been going by. Huge thumbs up to those guys! I'm impressed.
Yes, driver's ability is a big factor in drag racing, autocrossing and road racing, but let's give credit where credit is due and that primarily resides with the car itself.
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Ok guys I think I can clear up a few questions on this subject.

I own both a 07 C6 Z06 and the AMS built Evo you see in my signiture.

Let me start here....the Evo is a good car bone stock.....the Z06 is a GREAT CAR bone stock.

A stock Evo is easy to drive on a raod course and even a ok driver can have some fun and be competitive. ....but stock vs stock a Z06 will lap an Evo period.

Drag race stock for stock...well we won't even go there..since there isn't a stock Evo that can run mid to low 11's on street tires and beleive me many guys havewith there Z's. I ran a 11:7 @124mph on bald stock tires spinning through most of 1st gear. This is on a 89 degree day with very high humidity. Z06 was bone stock.

Lets get to the Modding part...Z06 just and intake and tune picked up 40hp more to the wheels.

The Evo as you can see has just about everything you can do to a 37r 2.0 car .

Evo 3450lbs Z06 3052lbs Weight and Aero - Advantage Z06.

The Evo also has three maps ( Tunes) 93 @ 20psi very conservative boost for the street. BTW Drives great!!

100oct Tune @ 26psi again very conservative could be as high as 28 safely.

C-16 @ 36 psi 700whp on AMS Dyno could go 38 but don't want it take a chance on it going BOOM


Ok from a roll the Z06 will walk away from the Evo on 93 oct tune and will go way beyond the MPH limit of the Evos gearing....175mph vs 200 +. On a track there is no contest it is the Z06. Although I have to say, you have to be a good driver to get the most out of the Z06 but for those that can forget about it.

Evo on 100 oct drag race should be a close one....haven't done that race yet but we will do a comparison when the Z is done ( having the intake and TB ported and retuned..this coming week and it should be right around 500 whp with those mods....on a raod course I still would give it to the Z with the Evo running that big turbo it really isn't set up for RR.

The Evo on C-16 well forget about it!!! Evo will walk away from the Z06 by car lengths again until it runs out of gears....then its Z territory.

BTW Ranger ran a 10:85 @ 129.88 mph on DR's bone stock car but he is a awesome driver.

LPE just built a TT Z06 1400hp that unofficially just broke the standing mile record at 226mph and they said the car has more in it..I would say based on there 8:56 second C5 TT shop car that this new one would be a bit faster....and it can be driven daily and it comes with a 3 year 36mile warranty to boot.


Bottom line is if you have enough money you can make a VW go fast... and I think it will be quite some time before we start seeing the kind of mods to take a Evo X past Z06 performance stats.


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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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WhtEvo05, thanks alot for your input. You are probably the perfect person to have come across this thread since you own both vehicles.

Of the three different forms of racing I mentioned earlier (drag, auto-x, and roadracing) it seems to me that roadracing would probably be the most difficult one for an evo vs. ZO6 with drag racing also taking significant work. It seems that the autocross course would probably give the evo the best chance since you are taking away the corvettes high speed advantage. Some well sorted coilovers, sticky 265 width tires, a 2.3 stroker motor and medium sized turbo would probably hold its own against the ZO6 as long as there weren't too many long straightaways.
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