They are what RPM the engine drops to assuming the car was shifted at 7k for the previous shift.

 

This is 100% true! Miss a gear with a ACT2600 a few times and your s h i t is toasted! I actually drive my buddys 91' Eagle Talon with a .50 tirm T3/T4 at the track from time to time and it has a 2600 in it. Needless to say his tranny needs some serious work . Getting that bastard into gear is hell enless you granny shift that b i t c h .

 

ACT Clutches are known to kill tranny's and have high RPM lockout. The stock clutch can take alot of abuse. 7700 miles here, 9 strip launches, 3 or 4 street launches, 324/325 whp and wtq on a Mustang Dyno since break in, recently close to 400 with a 50 trim and my first manual car. Still holding strong!

 

When it comes to the Evo, I would say go with the 5 spd. If you can find a 5 spd other than the RS, I would suggest that. The 6 spd seems to be a little more fragile and most people I have talked to have more issues with grinding and missed gears with the 6 spd compared to the 5 spd. And if you are a 1/4 mile guy, I would definately go with a 5 spd. Here is the reason why...

although the redline on the Evo tach is at 7k, the factory rev limit is at 7600. And no, the car isn't going to pull no where near 7600 rpm, but with intake, exhaust and a good tune, the car should pull up to around 7400 no problem. And if you trap faster than 111, then you will be shifting an extra time in the 6 speed. The 6 spd 4th gear runs out at 111mph and the 5 spd will run to about 118mph. Get some cams and a 7800-8k shift point and you can run over 120 in the 5 spd and the 6 spd will still only trap around 115, which means once you get into the mid
12s, that extra shift is gonna cause you at least another .1-.2 seconds in et. Hope that helps you out.

Brandon

 

Damn you guys are helpful! You may just get my *** to buy a 34,000 MR. But there is such a thing as "weight reduction" or a shep built 4th & 5th with a longer ratio correct? Or would this actually slow me down? Or possibly just cryo the 4th and 5th call it a day? Too many friggin options.... My brain hurts. But Shep is here in Ohio and a few of my buds on www.columbusdsm.com have very nice setups such as vwjeff which is on this site, and hopefully cut me a deal via Dave Buschurs shop. Doubt it... JK!!
Thanks you guys, you've been a real help!!

 

1st gear on the 5sp is the weakest link 3rd gear on the mr is weak link from what ive read. Personally from the daily abuse i put my car through, going to be 50k in 2 years of owning it its going good still on a stock clutch with lots of life

 

These "people" you talk to about having grinding problems with the 6-spd cannot drive. The 6-spd is absolutely fine. That is why EVERY EVO since the VIII has come with the 6-spd except for in America. I am sick of hearing this stupid debate. Watch a Best Motoring video and you will see that exactly the same model of Evo is faster with the 6-spd in the 1/8 mile and the 1/4mile. My 6-spd has 24,000 miles, almost 200 drag passes, and not one problem.

 

100% wrong and written by a homer who knows nothing about drag racing and wants to justify the MR. We all know by now the limitations of the MR, so there's no need to stretch the truth trying to convince the guy to get an MR over an RS.

You don't even have to shift to 5th in an MR at 110. We go up to 115+ in 4th before shifting to 5th, and the 5spd goes even further. A lot further on an VIII 5spd, but still several mph further in the IX 5spd.

 

I can understand that a stock MR would be faster in the 1/4 mile due to the gearing, but my point was after you start trapping @ 110+mph, you have an extra shift which might make you a little slower than a 5 spd Evo considering the one less shift.

And maybe these "people" are bad drivers. But not everyone can be a great driver. So on average, I hear more complaints about the 6 spd than the 5 spd. I was simply stating some info about drag racing and the possible trap gear/speed. I was giving him information so he can make his own personal decision.

 

Drag racing isn't real racing, though. It doesn't have a problem with drag where I had 250+, but it has a problem on the road course, which is where the Evo belongs.

The 6spd we have on USDM Evos made by Aisin is not very good. It's sufficient for a daily driver, though.

 

Thank you verrrrry much! As far as I know you know your S H I T. Ive been to your page many a few times and saw your builds, Very nice by the way. My brain hurts now..
So honestly Warrtalon, what are ALL of the limitations of the MR and also what are the Positive aspects over the Evo 8-9 5 speeds. Im sorry if im asking all these questions but Im trying to learn as much as possible b4 I make my purchase.35K burns. Also Ive been to the last 3 DSM Shootouts and I cant stand to look @ my STI any longer, Hence I went fishing on the 2007 Norwalk Subaru vs. Mitsu this year as my feelings got hurt WAY too bad lasy year! Sorry for the long write ups.

 

My point is that the 5 speed will be able to trap higher in 4th gear than the 6 speed and I also mentioned that if you run high into the 7k rpm or up close to the 8k range, you will be able to run around 115 mph in 4th gear in the 6 speed. But if you plan to shift at 7k, you will probably be shifting a little below 110. And I wasn't trying to convince him to get an MR. I personally own a 5 speed and love it for drag racing. I did suggest something other than an RS in 5 speed, which was just due to the fact of the comforts of pw, ABS and other options the RS doesn't come with. If that doesn't bother the individual, then RS all the way.

 

WTF is a homer?

You've always advocated shifting early into 5th on the 6 speeds. Not everyone likes to rev to 8k with their unsponsored daily driver. I couldn't give two squirts of **** whether or not this guy buys an RS or MR. I don't need to justify the MR. Which model did you buy again Warr?

 

With my old setup and 6spd I brought it to 8200rpms in 4th and trapped 120.9mph in the 1/4.

Blake

 

I understand that the gears do get hot while road racing, I do the SCCA in the STI and its not even clost to running it on Mid-Ohio for 10 laps. Ive never ran my car @ Mid Ohio but Im sure the Buschur Time Attk Evo didnt have a 6spd in it!
I actually took this picture @ the 2006 DSM Shootout