6 Speed MR vs. 5 Speed RS
Sep 15, 2007 | 04:26 PM
#31
Sinister, I will answer all your questions in due time.
BG, I wasn't responding to you. Look who I quoted.
Jordan, if you don't know what a homer is, then look it up. I have _NEVER_ advocated shifting to 5th on the 6spd. The only thing I've said is that it's NOT a good idea except for at my altitude where the powerband shifts about 1k rpm to the left. You don't have to rev to 8k to hit 115mph traps either, but there's nothing wrong with revving to 8k even on the stock valvetrain. Again, common knowledge. Don't give me that crap anyway when you're 18 years old with a big turbo upgrade on a brand new IX - what a crock.
I bought an MR the moment it came off the truck in late 04 before anyone knew anything about the 6spd or how it would perform. That is NOTHING like you buying one 2 years later and then defending it like it's special when we already know it's not. Get a clue.
BG, I wasn't responding to you. Look who I quoted.
Jordan, if you don't know what a homer is, then look it up. I have _NEVER_ advocated shifting to 5th on the 6spd. The only thing I've said is that it's NOT a good idea except for at my altitude where the powerband shifts about 1k rpm to the left. You don't have to rev to 8k to hit 115mph traps either, but there's nothing wrong with revving to 8k even on the stock valvetrain. Again, common knowledge. Don't give me that crap anyway when you're 18 years old with a big turbo upgrade on a brand new IX - what a crock.
I bought an MR the moment it came off the truck in late 04 before anyone knew anything about the 6spd or how it would perform. That is NOTHING like you buying one 2 years later and then defending it like it's special when we already know it's not. Get a clue.
Sep 15, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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WTF is a homer?
You've always advocated shifting early into 5th on the 6 speeds. Not everyone likes to rev to 8k with their unsponsored daily driver. I couldn't give two squirts of **** whether or not this guy buys an RS or MR. I don't need to justify the MR. Which model did you buy again Warr?
You've always advocated shifting early into 5th on the 6 speeds. Not everyone likes to rev to 8k with their unsponsored daily driver. I couldn't give two squirts of **** whether or not this guy buys an RS or MR. I don't need to justify the MR. Which model did you buy again Warr?
Lets all be friends...
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Sep 15, 2007 | 04:36 PM
#33
Sinister, I will answer all your questions in due time.
BG, I wasn't responding to you. Look who I quoted.
Jordan, if you don't know what a homer is, then look it up. I have _NEVER_ advocated shifting to 5th on the 6spd. The only thing I've said is that it's NOT a good idea except for at my altitude where the powerband shifts about 1k rpm to the left. You don't have to rev to 8k to hit 115mph traps either, but there's nothing wrong with revving to 8k even on the stock valvetrain. Again, common knowledge. Don't give me that crap anyway when you're 18 years old with a big turbo upgrade on a brand new IX - what a crock.
I bought an MR the moment it came off the truck in late 04 before anyone knew anything about the 6spd or how it would perform. That is NOTHING like you buying one 2 years later and then defending it like it's special when we already know it's not. Get a clue.
BG, I wasn't responding to you. Look who I quoted.
Jordan, if you don't know what a homer is, then look it up. I have _NEVER_ advocated shifting to 5th on the 6spd. The only thing I've said is that it's NOT a good idea except for at my altitude where the powerband shifts about 1k rpm to the left. You don't have to rev to 8k to hit 115mph traps either, but there's nothing wrong with revving to 8k even on the stock valvetrain. Again, common knowledge. Don't give me that crap anyway when you're 18 years old with a big turbo upgrade on a brand new IX - what a crock.
I bought an MR the moment it came off the truck in late 04 before anyone knew anything about the 6spd or how it would perform. That is NOTHING like you buying one 2 years later and then defending it like it's special when we already know it's not. Get a clue.
Warrtalon,
I missed the name on the quote. Apologies. And I know both cars have their weaknesses and strengths. So all in all, it's a matter of personal preference in which one you think will suit you the best. And the one good thing about it is regardless if you go with 5 or 6 speed, there are plenty of companies out there that can build your transmission for whatever goal you want to accomplish. So if you're not happy with the gearing, just give one of those companies a call and they can hook you up!!
Sep 15, 2007 | 04:38 PM
#34
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Sinister, I will answer all your questions in due time.
BG, I wasn't responding to you. Look who I quoted.
Jordan, if you don't know what a homer is, then look it up. I have _NEVER_ advocated shifting to 5th on the 6spd. The only thing I've said is that it's NOT a good idea except for at my altitude where the powerband shifts about 1k rpm to the left. You don't have to rev to 8k to hit 115mph traps either, but there's nothing wrong with revving to 8k even on the stock valvetrain. Again, common knowledge. Don't give me that crap anyway when you're 18 years old with a big turbo upgrade on a brand new IX - what a crock.
I bought an MR the moment it came off the truck in late 04 before anyone knew anything about the 6spd or how it would perform. That is NOTHING like you buying one 2 years later and then defending it like it's special when we already know it's not. Get a clue.
BG, I wasn't responding to you. Look who I quoted.
Jordan, if you don't know what a homer is, then look it up. I have _NEVER_ advocated shifting to 5th on the 6spd. The only thing I've said is that it's NOT a good idea except for at my altitude where the powerband shifts about 1k rpm to the left. You don't have to rev to 8k to hit 115mph traps either, but there's nothing wrong with revving to 8k even on the stock valvetrain. Again, common knowledge. Don't give me that crap anyway when you're 18 years old with a big turbo upgrade on a brand new IX - what a crock.
I bought an MR the moment it came off the truck in late 04 before anyone knew anything about the 6spd or how it would perform. That is NOTHING like you buying one 2 years later and then defending it like it's special when we already know it's not. Get a clue.
Warrtalon,
I missed the name on the quote. Apologies. And I know both cars have their weaknesses and strengths. So all in all, it's a matter of personal preference in which one you think will suit you the best. And the one good thing about it is regardless if you go with 5 or 6 speed, there are plenty of companies out there that can build your transmission for whatever goal you want to accomplish. So if you're not happy with the gearing, just give one of those companies a call and they can hook you up!!
I missed the name on the quote. Apologies. And I know both cars have their weaknesses and strengths. So all in all, it's a matter of personal preference in which one you think will suit you the best. And the one good thing about it is regardless if you go with 5 or 6 speed, there are plenty of companies out there that can build your transmission for whatever goal you want to accomplish. So if you're not happy with the gearing, just give one of those companies a call and they can hook you up!!
BOTH deserve FTMFW
Last edited by SinisterAgent; Sep 15, 2007 at 04:41 PM.
Sep 15, 2007 | 04:45 PM
#35
Sinister- Drive both and figure out which one suits the majority of your needs best plain and simple. If your doing 99% daily and 1 % drag, find the most comfortable DD. If its the other way around, well you know the drill.
Sep 15, 2007 | 05:04 PM
#36
funny how alot of 5-spd in my town broke their tranny and non of the 6spd owner have any problem.
To my undrstang it's the drivers, NOT the transmission. Transmission cannot break itself if no one drives them but if the the driver abuse them....it will fail.
6spd FTW ....5spd are old news every cars have them.
To my undrstang it's the drivers, NOT the transmission. Transmission cannot break itself if no one drives them but if the the driver abuse them....it will fail.
6spd FTW ....5spd are old news every cars have them.
Sep 15, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Ive been paying 496.37 for my Sti for the past couple years and Im just not satisfied with the $$$ per HP ratio. 
Warrtalon, Ill be awaiting your synopsis of teh MR vs. Teh Infamous 5 Spd EVO!
Thanks for everything!
Last edited by SinisterAgent; Sep 15, 2007 at 05:36 PM.
Sep 16, 2007 | 11:36 AM
#42
Actually, 1-3 on the 6-speed are stronger than 1-3 on the 5-speed. It's 4-6 that you need to worry about. That would make the 6-speed better for autocross, I guess, but not for extended road racing (I don't think a lap or two would kill it, but I could be wrong).
Sep 16, 2007 | 11:45 AM
#43
As for the OP, I haven't driven a 5-speed Evo yet, but from what I've heard the 6-speed is much more pleasant for daily driving. That said, if you're planning on going *****-out either in drag or road racing, the 6-speed won't cut it in the long run (and even the 5-speed will likely eventually need a rebuild).
Also, if you aren't aware of this already, the 6-speed pretty much adds another gear between 4-5 in the 5-speed, not one on top of 5th. This explains why the MR doesn't get any better fuel economy than the IX/RS. But that does leave the 5-speed with a bit of a gap in gearing, which can hurt you on highway runs if that's what you're into. You can hear what happens between 4-5 in this video (when the camera is in the Vette). The Evo starts in 2nd and shifts from 4th to 5th at 36 seconds in the video. You can actually hear it fall out of the powerband a bit as the Vette gains some ground. Granted, the Evo in this video has a considerably bigger turbo than stock, but it's a consideration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkYMy4c5ZY
At this stage, I use my MR as a daily driver with an occasional autocross here and there, so I wouldn't trade my 6-speed for a 5-speed. If I ever get to the point where I need the 5-speed, I'm sure it will be only too easy to get a 5-speed owner to trade with me. The 6-speed, after all, retails for almost double the 5-speed's price.
Also, if you aren't aware of this already, the 6-speed pretty much adds another gear between 4-5 in the 5-speed, not one on top of 5th. This explains why the MR doesn't get any better fuel economy than the IX/RS. But that does leave the 5-speed with a bit of a gap in gearing, which can hurt you on highway runs if that's what you're into. You can hear what happens between 4-5 in this video (when the camera is in the Vette). The Evo starts in 2nd and shifts from 4th to 5th at 36 seconds in the video. You can actually hear it fall out of the powerband a bit as the Vette gains some ground. Granted, the Evo in this video has a considerably bigger turbo than stock, but it's a consideration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkYMy4c5ZY
At this stage, I use my MR as a daily driver with an occasional autocross here and there, so I wouldn't trade my 6-speed for a 5-speed. If I ever get to the point where I need the 5-speed, I'm sure it will be only too easy to get a 5-speed owner to trade with me. The 6-speed, after all, retails for almost double the 5-speed's price.
Sep 16, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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I own both an '04 RS 5-speed (modified track day car), and an '06 IX MR 6-speed (bone stock daily driver).
The 5-speed is well suited to the track, and doesn't have to be shifted as much. The 6-speed is much preferable on the street/highway -- more flexible.
The 5-speed is well suited to the track, and doesn't have to be shifted as much. The 6-speed is much preferable on the street/highway -- more flexible.
Sep 16, 2007 | 01:38 PM
#45
Ive also owned both a 5speed Evo and a 6speed Evo and I can tell you hands down the 6speed is better for cruising around town. At first it was kind of notchy but over time its just perfect; slips right into every gear. I know mine will last a long time too because my power level is going to stay below ~340ft/lbs and is almost hard to miss a gear.