Convince me to buy EVO, and sell my STi...
Oct 24, 2007, 01:48 PM
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looks like you'll end up keeping your sti. you will get to the same point with an evo if you mod it just like you did your sti. then you will say to yourself "should i waste the money on a bigger turbo or not to"
realistically, if you want reliability you wont do anything much bast bolt ons.. for any car that is. If you want to hit 11's reliably, you need a bigger turbo, which is where your money costs is.. Its the same for STI's and EVO's. SO it probably isn't worth your time trying to sell your STI just to be on the same path when you get your "used" evo. Sounds like you have a realiable trusthworthy car already, keep it
realistically, if you want reliability you wont do anything much bast bolt ons.. for any car that is. If you want to hit 11's reliably, you need a bigger turbo, which is where your money costs is.. Its the same for STI's and EVO's. SO it probably isn't worth your time trying to sell your STI just to be on the same path when you get your "used" evo. Sounds like you have a realiable trusthworthy car already, keep it
o and once again, thanks to all for your opinions!
Oct 24, 2007, 01:59 PM
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mayhem13 - What kind of racing do you want to do? Drag, auto-cross, road race?
What are your power goals or 1/4 mile goals with the car.
Evo's can go very quick without the need for a gt35.
What are your power goals or 1/4 mile goals with the car.
Evo's can go very quick without the need for a gt35.
Oct 24, 2007, 02:13 PM
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Paul, You did answer all your questions, IF you want to go faster and cheap, Go with an Evo IX IT is true the evo handles better, and its easy to mod, you can probably easy make some cash, by selling your after parts and put everything back to stock and trade it in StI for an evo ix, i would do it asap, because evo X is around the corner, if you still want ix with low milage.
gl with your purchase.
IT is true the evo handles better, and its easy to mod, you can probably easy make some cash, by selling your after parts and put everything back to stock and trade it in StI for an evo ix, i would do it asap, because evo X is around the corner, if you still want ix with low milage. gl with your purchase.
Oct 24, 2007, 02:16 PM
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I went out to a local fun race spot here in Chicago. I pretty much saw a 2005 20G EVO on race gas vs a 2005 35R STI. The EVO won... Funny thing about the EVO is it looked so stock compared to the STI under the hood.
Oct 24, 2007, 02:17 PM
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Oct 24, 2007, 03:33 PM
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yea i do love it. too bad the two cars are seemingly so equal in my mind, making this that much harder.
Well i live near englishtown in NJ, so i'd b doing some drag and autox, i'd love to road race too as englishtown just finished their track. mainly drag and autox..i know, i know there isn't really a turbo upgrade that will be a "jack of all trades" type of deal lol.
I'm hoping that the introduction of the X will drop the prices of the IX's a little bit...
yea working on my car has been a pita, (i even have stitches in my dome from a wrench lol..long story). I didn't fully realize how much easier it is to work on an evo until long after I bought my STi.
..once again, thanks all!
Paul, You did answer all your questions, IF you want to go faster and cheap, Go with an Evo IX IT is true the evo handles better, and its easy to mod, you can probably easy make some cash, by selling your after parts and put everything back to stock and trade it in StI for an evo ix, i would do it asap, because evo X is around the corner, if you still want ix with low milage.
gl with your purchase.
IT is true the evo handles better, and its easy to mod, you can probably easy make some cash, by selling your after parts and put everything back to stock and trade it in StI for an evo ix, i would do it asap, because evo X is around the corner, if you still want ix with low milage. gl with your purchase.
yea working on my car has been a pita, (i even have stitches in my dome from a wrench lol..long story). I didn't fully realize how much easier it is to work on an evo until long after I bought my STi.
..once again, thanks all!
Oct 24, 2007, 04:14 PM
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First off, greetings EvoM!. I'm new to posting on this forum, I usually stick to iwsti and nasioc.
Now, I am seriously considering selling my 05STi and picking up an Evo IX.
The reasoning behind this is that, as I mod my sti, I've reached the point where I am wondering if it is worth the serious $$$ investment to get what I want out of my car. I am trying to build a daily-driven car that will be tracked occasionally. My future upgrades for my sti are going to include GT30r, 35r, or GT52 with all supporting mods, full suspension, brakes, etc...
However, as my intended mod path progresses I am also considering a built block and other costly mods.
Finally, when i bought my STi, I was also shopping for an evo IX but I got a great deal on my car...until that point I was torn between the two.
So, the reason I am considering sellin my sti and buying an evo is 1. 4g63 engine 'stronger' then sti ej25. 2. evo 'cheaper' to mod 3. 4g63 easier to work on, as i'd have to pull the sti motor to do any substantial work (major labor costs here). ...plus I LOVE the look of a WW Evo IX. I believe that my mod path would be substantially cheaper for an evo; for example to run a 35r on an sti I would need to invest over 10k (turbo itself, supporting mods, new or rebuilt block, etc..) on the evo I believe the Buschur hta35r kit is around 4k? plus supporting mods, so maybe around 7k investment? correct me if I'm wrong.
The Question: Is it worth the trouble to sell my sti and buy an evo? What else should I consider? I've been reading this forum for a while now and I am somewhat familiar with Evo's, but what are the major known failure points? (i.e. head studs, trans. case, clutch, etc...?) I would appreciate any and all input to help me with this major decision.
Thanks everyone
-Paul
...and yes I've tried to search for info I though relevant, I'm looking for opinions here.
Now, I am seriously considering selling my 05STi and picking up an Evo IX.
The reasoning behind this is that, as I mod my sti, I've reached the point where I am wondering if it is worth the serious $$$ investment to get what I want out of my car. I am trying to build a daily-driven car that will be tracked occasionally. My future upgrades for my sti are going to include GT30r, 35r, or GT52 with all supporting mods, full suspension, brakes, etc...
However, as my intended mod path progresses I am also considering a built block and other costly mods.
Finally, when i bought my STi, I was also shopping for an evo IX but I got a great deal on my car...until that point I was torn between the two.
So, the reason I am considering sellin my sti and buying an evo is 1. 4g63 engine 'stronger' then sti ej25. 2. evo 'cheaper' to mod 3. 4g63 easier to work on, as i'd have to pull the sti motor to do any substantial work (major labor costs here). ...plus I LOVE the look of a WW Evo IX. I believe that my mod path would be substantially cheaper for an evo; for example to run a 35r on an sti I would need to invest over 10k (turbo itself, supporting mods, new or rebuilt block, etc..) on the evo I believe the Buschur hta35r kit is around 4k? plus supporting mods, so maybe around 7k investment? correct me if I'm wrong.
The Question: Is it worth the trouble to sell my sti and buy an evo? What else should I consider? I've been reading this forum for a while now and I am somewhat familiar with Evo's, but what are the major known failure points? (i.e. head studs, trans. case, clutch, etc...?) I would appreciate any and all input to help me with this major decision.
Thanks everyone
-Paul
...and yes I've tried to search for info I though relevant, I'm looking for opinions here.
2) Try changing heads and cams on an EJ25...'nuff said.
3) Long headers that lose lots of heat (power) vs. short twin-scroll iron exhaust mani
There are others, but you get the point.
Oct 24, 2007, 04:46 PM
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The Evo is just a flat out better car. Handles better. .responds to mods better and looks better. The interior sucks but you buy a car to drive it. You want luxury...go sit on your couch...
Oct 24, 2007, 06:17 PM
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..never use cruise control anyway.
..reliability, now there's my issue with the evo.
and I really love the way my STi torque's down low. its sooo much fun.
Oct 24, 2007, 06:24 PM
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There was a group of STI drivers that kinda met up with a group of Evo drivers at a local meet. Most of them seemed to think our cars handled better. *shrug*
I've never driven an STI, but I've stated before: I chose the evo because I felt that the STI was less appealing cosmetically.
As for reliability, I believe that all depends on your mod paths. You can always change parts for better.
I've never driven an STI, but I've stated before: I chose the evo because I felt that the STI was less appealing cosmetically.
As for reliability, I believe that all depends on your mod paths. You can always change parts for better.
