Sep. 2003 Sport Compact Car has Evo -vs- 911, M3, S4..
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Hummm slow times for all. And they say the S4 has 344 hp and 410 ft.lb of torque ,, where do they get this from? Also they say it weighs 3,660. In the last Car and Driver they have 340 hp,, 302 tq. and weighs in at 3864lbs?
Is this the Europe version or what?
Is this the Europe version or what?
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Oh, and if you live where i live(Newport Beach) you would agree with the statement that M3s are geared toward a younger crowd. I know like 5 guys, all under the age of 20 that drive e46 M3s.
Oh, and if you live where i live(Newport Beach) you would agree with the statement that M3s are geared toward a younger crowd. I know like 5 guys, all under the age of 20 that drive e46 M3s.
Mitsubishi is not aiming the EVO at the 20-something year old residents of Newport Beach. That would be commercial suicide. They are aiming it at 30-50 year olds.... which happens to be the age range of most of the people on this board. Funny, huh?
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What type of dyno does Sport Compact use? When they did the best 8 cars for under $30k, they got 233 whp and 252wtq. for the evo and for the SRT-4 they got 223hp and 256wtq. I cant see where they say what dyno they used. Im just curious?
For 1/3 less than the evo that srt-4 is going to be one hott car, esp. with 3 stages from Dodge with a factory backed warrenty!!!!!
By the way this is on page 200.
For 1/3 less than the evo that srt-4 is going to be one hott car, esp. with 3 stages from Dodge with a factory backed warrenty!!!!!
By the way this is on page 200.
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i'm 32 and i drive an evo
i'm also very glad that my car is more awesome than an $82,000 porshe
i also can't stop editing this post because reading that article made me so very happy!
oh and if you read page 66 it talks about the vishnu stage zero.. it blew away all the other cars..... they said for $4200 more .. but half of that 4200 was the volk wheels...
i'm also very glad that my car is more awesome than an $82,000 porshe
i also can't stop editing this post because reading that article made me so very happy!
oh and if you read page 66 it talks about the vishnu stage zero.. it blew away all the other cars..... they said for $4200 more .. but half of that 4200 was the volk wheels...
Last edited by keviin; Jul 23, 2003 at 05:23 PM.
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Hummm slow times for all. And they say the S4 has 344 hp and 410 ft.lb of torque ,, where do they get this from? Also they say it weighs 3,660. In the last Car and Driver they have 340 hp,, 302 tq. and weighs in at 3864lbs?
Is this the Europe version or what?
Is this the Europe version or what?
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Originally posted by silvrevo
What type of dyno does Sport Compact use? When they did the best 8 cars for under $30k, they got 233 whp and 252wtq. for the evo and for the SRT-4 they got 223hp and 256wtq. I cant see where they say what dyno they used. Im just curious?
For 1/3 less than the evo that srt-4 is going to be one hott car, esp. with 3 stages from Dodge with a factory backed warrenty!!!!!
By the way this is on page 200.
What type of dyno does Sport Compact use? When they did the best 8 cars for under $30k, they got 233 whp and 252wtq. for the evo and for the SRT-4 they got 223hp and 256wtq. I cant see where they say what dyno they used. Im just curious?
For 1/3 less than the evo that srt-4 is going to be one hott car, esp. with 3 stages from Dodge with a factory backed warrenty!!!!!
By the way this is on page 200.
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Originally posted by kevin
i'm 32 and i drive an evo
i'm also very glad that my car is more awesome than an $82,000 porshe
i also can't stop editing this post because reading that article made me so very happy!
oh and if you read page 66 it talks about the vishnu stage zero.. it blew away all the other cars..... they said for $4200 more .. but half of that 4200 was the volk wheels...
i'm 32 and i drive an evo
i'm also very glad that my car is more awesome than an $82,000 porshe
i also can't stop editing this post because reading that article made me so very happy!
oh and if you read page 66 it talks about the vishnu stage zero.. it blew away all the other cars..... they said for $4200 more .. but half of that 4200 was the volk wheels...
The test conditions, as noted, were pretty bad. Very hot track temps (100+F). The C&D testing was slightly cooler but against a very nasty headwind. You'll see that on the newsstands in a couple of weeks and on C&D Television (on TNN) early next month
Cheers,
shiv
PS. I drove the other cars as well during the street and track testing. The M3 was truly impressive on the track. So well balanced and rewarding to drive. The S4 pretty much sucked at anything beyond 7/10ths although it did have one heck of a motor. The Porsche was remarkably good and had awesome levels of grip. On the road, it was almost too grippy in the way it prevented you from getting sideways under power or trail-braking. It also sounded mean as hell when given throttle. Ride quality was nice and comfort/cache levels were out of this world. But everytime I ended up back in the EVOs (both our and the stocker), it quickly became appearant that they are more driver-involving. On an unfamiliar stretch of twisty road, there really is no other car I'd want to be in. The biggest difference between the two EVOs, as far as handling goes, is our EVO had a much more natural at-the-limit cornering balance. That is, one doesn't have to force it to stay on line or worry about fore-aft weight transfer during turn-in. Makes much easier and rewarding to drive hard. The power difference is pretty obvious, the biggest differenct being partial throttle power response and top-end thrust. Whereas the stock EVO rewards short-shifting and deliberate (early) throttle application, the modded EVO was more responsive. With the extra power and juicier handling balance, it could be driven with fingertips and the tips of the toes
Last edited by shiv@vishnu; Jul 23, 2003 at 06:08 PM.