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Old Jul 21, 2003, 06:38 AM
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Where does she dance? I'll stop by and drop her a couple ones.
LOL I was thinking the same thing!!
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Hummm slow times for all. And they say the S4 has 344 hp and 410 ft.lb of torque ,, where do they get this from? Also they say it weighs 3,660. In the last Car and Driver they have 340 hp,, 302 tq. and weighs in at 3864lbs?

Is this the Europe version or what?
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Damn where the hell is my SCC?
Old Jul 23, 2003, 12:21 PM
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Here are some of the results:


http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthrea...hreadid=138177
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Originally posted by EvolvedVIII
Oh, and if you live where i live(Newport Beach) you would agree with the statement that M3s are geared toward a younger crowd. I know like 5 guys, all under the age of 20 that drive e46 M3s.
I hope you realize you live in a rarified world that doesn't reflect the reality of 99.9% of 20-somethings. (I'm sure you know this, I'm just pointing it out, just in case...)

Mitsubishi is not aiming the EVO at the 20-something year old residents of Newport Beach. That would be commercial suicide. They are aiming it at 30-50 year olds.... which happens to be the age range of most of the people on this board. Funny, huh?
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Does anyone know exactly what Shiv's Evo's mods were? I'm getting the signiture turboback with exede and would love to hear if this is what beat the 911.
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Shiv's stage 0 = Catback exhaust with the Xede.

I believe his stage 0.5 is Catback with downpipe and Xede.

His stage 1, he was talking about turbo back exhaust, adjustable cam gears, and of course, the prized Xede!!
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What type of dyno does Sport Compact use? When they did the best 8 cars for under $30k, they got 233 whp and 252wtq. for the evo and for the SRT-4 they got 223hp and 256wtq. I cant see where they say what dyno they used. Im just curious?

For 1/3 less than the evo that srt-4 is going to be one hott car, esp. with 3 stages from Dodge with a factory backed warrenty!!!!!

By the way this is on page 200.
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im 34 and i drive an evo
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their evo had a f-ed up clutch...oh the shock!!!!! main reason for the low times.....

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i'm 32 and i drive an evo

i'm also very glad that my car is more awesome than an $82,000 porshe

i also can't stop editing this post because reading that article made me so very happy!

oh and if you read page 66 it talks about the vishnu stage zero.. it blew away all the other cars..... they said for $4200 more .. but half of that 4200 was the volk wheels...

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Hummm slow times for all. And they say the S4 has 344 hp and 410 ft.lb of torque ,, where do they get this from? Also they say it weighs 3,660. In the last Car and Driver they have 340 hp,, 302 tq. and weighs in at 3864lbs?

Is this the Europe version or what?
They used the new S4 that has the 4.2 V8 NA motor instead of 2.7 TT Motor. If you think about it, Evo was the only Turbo in the group and it most likely suffered most from the heat, if it was cooler, the result might have been quite different.
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Originally posted by silvrevo
What type of dyno does Sport Compact use? When they did the best 8 cars for under $30k, they got 233 whp and 252wtq. for the evo and for the SRT-4 they got 223hp and 256wtq. I cant see where they say what dyno they used. Im just curious?

For 1/3 less than the evo that srt-4 is going to be one hott car, esp. with 3 stages from Dodge with a factory backed warrenty!!!!!

By the way this is on page 200.
It will still always be a front wheel drive Neon
Old Jul 23, 2003, 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by kevin
i'm 32 and i drive an evo

i'm also very glad that my car is more awesome than an $82,000 porshe

i also can't stop editing this post because reading that article made me so very happy!

oh and if you read page 66 it talks about the vishnu stage zero.. it blew away all the other cars..... they said for $4200 more .. but half of that 4200 was the volk wheels...
We were tempted to put the stock wheels back on for cost-cutting purposes (as they really don't add any performance value) but the SCC comparison test was kinda last minute. The only reason we competed in it was because we were already in southern Calif. for Car and Driver's SuperTuner challenge which was held the day before. It just happened to work out well. Except for the fact that the tires and brakes were already beat up from the C&D testing at Calif. Motor Speedway. Repeated 130 to 0 breaking tests do take their toll

The test conditions, as noted, were pretty bad. Very hot track temps (100+F). The C&D testing was slightly cooler but against a very nasty headwind. You'll see that on the newsstands in a couple of weeks and on C&D Television (on TNN) early next month

Cheers,
shiv

PS. I drove the other cars as well during the street and track testing. The M3 was truly impressive on the track. So well balanced and rewarding to drive. The S4 pretty much sucked at anything beyond 7/10ths although it did have one heck of a motor. The Porsche was remarkably good and had awesome levels of grip. On the road, it was almost too grippy in the way it prevented you from getting sideways under power or trail-braking. It also sounded mean as hell when given throttle. Ride quality was nice and comfort/cache levels were out of this world. But everytime I ended up back in the EVOs (both our and the stocker), it quickly became appearant that they are more driver-involving. On an unfamiliar stretch of twisty road, there really is no other car I'd want to be in. The biggest difference between the two EVOs, as far as handling goes, is our EVO had a much more natural at-the-limit cornering balance. That is, one doesn't have to force it to stay on line or worry about fore-aft weight transfer during turn-in. Makes much easier and rewarding to drive hard. The power difference is pretty obvious, the biggest differenct being partial throttle power response and top-end thrust. Whereas the stock EVO rewards short-shifting and deliberate (early) throttle application, the modded EVO was more responsive. With the extra power and juicier handling balance, it could be driven with fingertips and the tips of the toes

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Damn you all where is my SCC !!


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