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Downsides of not having a front crash beam?

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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i pm'd fimotorsports in vegas and it should be on its way... if you're not running the beam, pm him, he hsould have a few.
Old Jan 24, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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To all of the posts that just say if you want to get hurt in a crash then take it off... you may stop showing your ignorance now. It is clear that some of you have no knowledge of the subject matter at hand. The front and rear crash beams offer no additional protection to the cabin of the car in an accident bad enough to protrude into this area. The crash beam is a functional bar put in place to tie together the two main pieces of sub-frame that run parallel to the front and rear fenders. The crash beam's main purpose on the car is to keep those two parallel subframe pieces tied together... Compare it to what a sway bar does for the suspension... If one side of the car gets hit head on say the drivers side, the rigidity of the passenger's side subframe will resist the movement of the subframe that is being crushed, hence reducing damages... BUT depending upon the other vehicles weight etc etc, (you cant realy put a MPH on it as there are many variables affecting this) there is a breaking point at which this system will fail... And if the accident is bad enough to go through the firewall, this system has already become just about useless. To wrap up, the front crash beam will save ur intercooler and air condenser/radiator in small fender benders on the front end and will help reduce damage if the frame starts to twist in a minor front end crash, but beyond that it does not help much at all for safety purposes or even financial purposes because at that point if its that bad on the front of an evo, its totaled... I dont run mine, and i have the cusco front bar to keep the frame from twisting under hard cornering.
Old Jan 24, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OZrallyracer
To all of the posts that just say if you want to get hurt in a crash then take it off... you may stop showing your ignorance now. It is clear that some of you have no knowledge of the subject matter at hand. The front and rear crash beams offer no additional protection to the cabin of the car in an accident bad enough to protrude into this area. The crash beam is a functional bar put in place to tie together the two main pieces of sub-frame that run parallel to the front and rear fenders. The crash beam's main purpose on the car is to keep those two parallel subframe pieces tied together... Compare it to what a sway bar does for the suspension... If one side of the car gets hit head on say the drivers side, the rigidity of the passenger's side subframe will resist the movement of the subframe that is being crushed, hence reducing damages... BUT depending upon the other vehicles weight etc etc, (you cant realy put a MPH on it as there are many variables affecting this) there is a breaking point at which this system will fail... And if the accident is bad enough to go through the firewall, this system has already become just about useless. To wrap up, the front crash beam will save ur intercooler and air condenser/radiator in small fender benders on the front end and will help reduce damage if the frame starts to twist in a minor front end crash, but beyond that it does not help much at all for safety purposes or even financial purposes because at that point if its that bad on the front of an evo, its totaled... I dont run mine, and i have the cusco front bar to keep the frame from twisting under hard cornering.
can you send me the link for that cusco bar?
Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Has it ever been documented that an insurance claim has, in fact, denied payment after a collision due to a missing crash beam? I mean, what about the OP? He bought the car used. What if he got in a wreck the day he bought the car. Do you think his insurance company would deny payment because of the crash beam not being there?

Why don't insurance companies deny claims for those that crash in the snow on Advans? Doesn't the owner's manual specifically say that they should not be driven on snow or ice and that you should get suitable tires for those driving conditions?

Is it only the Evo that people believe that insurance won't pay out? What about all those lifted trucks that put their bumpers way above the factory height and then get in accidents? Do you think that they are not covered because of the modifications that the person did to their own vehicle? I've never heard of it.
Old Jan 27, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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^ Thats a very good point too... I've never heard of any one who was denied a claim due to the lacking of a crash beam. Can any one come forward and confirm that this has happened to them before? As far as I have seen this is just an internet rumor. I haven't seen any evidence of this actually happening...
Old Jan 27, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
Has it ever been documented that an insurance claim has, in fact, denied payment after a collision due to a missing crash beam? I mean, what about the OP? He bought the car used. What if he got in a wreck the day he bought the car. Do you think his insurance company would deny payment because of the crash beam not being there?

Why don't insurance companies deny claims for those that crash in the snow on Advans? Doesn't the owner's manual specifically say that they should not be driven on snow or ice and that you should get suitable tires for those driving conditions?

Is it only the Evo that people believe that insurance won't pay out? What about all those lifted trucks that put their bumpers way above the factory height and then get in accidents? Do you think that they are not covered because of the modifications that the person did to their own vehicle? I've never heard of it.
The insurance company does not spend much time or effort investigating everyday claims. If you run no crash beam and end up needing $5K in new parts, you don't have to worry much.

Where you need to be concerned is in medical claims related to accidents. If you remove the crash beam and someone is seriously injured or killed (regardless of who caused the accident) you ARE liable for removing a safety device from your car. If you get sued for 6 or 7 figures your insurance company WILL hire an expert to examine your car. If they discover that you removed the beam intentionally, they may deny medical coverage leaving you on the line for the lawsuit.

It's called a crash beam for a reason. It distributes energy. In the same way it distributes lateral forces when cornering (chassis rigidity), it also transfers front end crash force more evenly in catastrophic accidents. It might make the difference between walking with a limp, and not walking at all.
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