is da STI batter than EVO ( in USA )
Aug 8, 2003, 07:42 AM
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I imagine it'd be around $34k but it would outperform the STi handily and be worth the price.
That's how it should be, really:
WRX - $25k
Evo VIII - $28k
Sti - $31k
Evo VIII 2.3 - $34k
Wouldn't that be sweet?
That's how it should be, really:
WRX - $25k
Evo VIII - $28k
Sti - $31k
Evo VIII 2.3 - $34k
Wouldn't that be sweet?
Aug 8, 2003, 07:48 AM
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Re: STI chip re-map
Originally posted by KZGTR
For your information, I just found out from subaru board, Subaru starts to send out their chip re-flash unit to dealers. This will solve the pinging problem. It seems they act fast to their problems.
For your information, I just found out from subaru board, Subaru starts to send out their chip re-flash unit to dealers. This will solve the pinging problem. It seems they act fast to their problems.
Thank you for informing me of nothing.
The four STI's that I have driven have pinged on 93oct. It's fact, like it or not. Subaru was trying to stick it to
as much as they could in the HP war. So the ing advance with throw the roof.Sti is a great car!! Hands down if they did not import the EVO I would be all over the STI (when fixed).
Eric
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Aug 8, 2003, 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by fury656
Staying on topic to some extent have you experienced any issues with your STi so far?
Staying on topic to some extent have you experienced any issues with your STi so far?
I was just kidding about the STi being faster. I think both cars are sweet and it is a drivers race to be sure. It is a great time for compact performance vehicles. Enjoy the one you got OR dance with the one that brung ya!
Aug 8, 2003, 08:03 AM
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Re: Re: is da STI batter than EVO ( in USA )
Originally posted by chinalfr
For the extra $3k, I can get my EVO fly.... The STI owner will smell my exhaust fumes.
For the extra $3k, I can get my EVO fly.... The STI owner will smell my exhaust fumes.
Mod for mod I have confidence in the proven 4G63 over the new EJ25. Also, I dont mind the STi, to insult it is almost like insulting my own car. Time to chase down some Crapvettes and Rustangs.
Aug 8, 2003, 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by fury656
KZGTR, you wouldn't happen to be a Nasioc or Iclub guy would you? Subaru is just as notorious for shunning defects as Mitsubishi so I wouldn't praise their quality control just yet. Also It'll be interesting to see how the detuning affects the overall HP output since timing was supposedly far too aggressive in the the fat range of the STi's powerband. We shall see...
KZGTR, you wouldn't happen to be a Nasioc or Iclub guy would you? Subaru is just as notorious for shunning defects as Mitsubishi so I wouldn't praise their quality control just yet. Also It'll be interesting to see how the detuning affects the overall HP output since timing was supposedly far too aggressive in the the fat range of the STi's powerband. We shall see...
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Originally posted by sccavee
I alomst bet they have richen the mixture up on the car also taking away HP. It will be interesting when people start to have them re-flashed and their comments after!
I alomst bet they have richen the mixture up on the car also taking away HP. It will be interesting when people start to have them re-flashed and their comments after!
Eric
Aug 8, 2003, 08:35 AM
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Man oh man - some of the members on this forum really kill me. YES - I drive (and love) an '04 STi. NO - I don't hate the Evo. Why would I? As far as I'm concerned BOTH are great cars. What else for 30k can get you these kind of times and performances? NOTHING! I've had my STi for 3 weeks, have 2200 miles on it, run Sunoco 94 religiously, have taken it to redline at WOT, and have NEVER experienced any det/ping. Subaru responded with an ECU reflash to address this problem within TWO MONTHS. That (to me) is fairly impressive and a great sign of taking care of their customers.
In the time I've had this car I've had 1 Porsche, 2 Corvettes and 1 M3 owner compliment me on my car. Why is it that Mitsubishi drivers can't stop insulting it? They are BOTH great cars folks.....bottom line is that it comes down to the driver and the buyers tastes/preference.
In the time I've had this car I've had 1 Porsche, 2 Corvettes and 1 M3 owner compliment me on my car. Why is it that Mitsubishi drivers can't stop insulting it? They are BOTH great cars folks.....bottom line is that it comes down to the driver and the buyers tastes/preference.
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Re: Re: STI chip re-map
Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky
And for your information, when the dealers first starting to notice this SOA said it was normal. It took them well over 4months to come out with the fix. Plus only very few dealers have it as of now to see if it works.
Thank you for informing me of nothing.
The four STI's that I have driven have pinged on 93oct. It's fact, like it or not. Subaru was trying to stick it to as much as they could in the HP war. So the ing advance with throw the roof.
Sti is a great car!! Hands down if they did not import the EVO I would be all over the STI (when fixed).
Eric
And for your information, when the dealers first starting to notice this SOA said it was normal. It took them well over 4months to come out with the fix. Plus only very few dealers have it as of now to see if it works.
Thank you for informing me of nothing.
The four STI's that I have driven have pinged on 93oct. It's fact, like it or not. Subaru was trying to stick it to
as much as they could in the HP war. So the ing advance with throw the roof.Sti is a great car!! Hands down if they did not import the EVO I would be all over the STI (when fixed).
Eric
well, do you see any fix for the weak EVO clutch yet?
Aug 8, 2003, 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by STiDayDreamin'
Why is it that Mitsubishi drivers can't stop insulting it? They are BOTH great cars folks.....bottom line is that it comes down to the driver and the buyers tastes/preference.
Why is it that Mitsubishi drivers can't stop insulting it? They are BOTH great cars folks.....bottom line is that it comes down to the driver and the buyers tastes/preference.
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Re: Re: Re: STI chip re-map
Originally posted by KZGTR
STI wasn't relased 4 month ago. People started to get them after June.
well, do you see any fix for the weak EVO clutch yet?
STI wasn't relased 4 month ago. People started to get them after June.
well, do you see any fix for the weak EVO clutch yet?
And The weak clutch was planned. If was a company making a High HP car that was very tunable I would also throw weak clutch in. Knowing full well US Americas love to drag race. My clutch is fine and will be fine for a good long time.
Don't for get SOA put in some kinda of Valve to not allow clutch droping in the 03 and up..
Thank you come again
Eric
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