Making The Transition: Rotors To Pistons
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Making The Transition: Rotors To Pistons
I've decided to man up and get myself a faster car...
It's Evolution IX vs Evolution X for me. Whichever car I buy, it's going to be pushed hard on the track. VERY hard.
Thus far, my little rotary Mazda RX-8 hasn't shown so much as a hiccup on the track. It just seems to be in its element when its out there pushing 9000rpms all day. In fact, when I'm done, the engine seems to run smoother. I tend to attribute this as a characteristic of rotary engines, in that they last forever under racing conditions (1991 Le Mans, glorious endurance racing record etc.).
Now that I've decided to go with an Evolution, I'm not completely sure how my habits will have to change. I can certainly see that I will need to shift earlier. I'm more concerned about maintenance and how well the Evolution engines hold up.
So guys, any experiences? I don't see many Evos out on the track..., so I'm not sure if there's even an answer to this. What are the long term problems for Evo IX/Xs when owned by a weekend racer?
It's Evolution IX vs Evolution X for me. Whichever car I buy, it's going to be pushed hard on the track. VERY hard.
Thus far, my little rotary Mazda RX-8 hasn't shown so much as a hiccup on the track. It just seems to be in its element when its out there pushing 9000rpms all day. In fact, when I'm done, the engine seems to run smoother. I tend to attribute this as a characteristic of rotary engines, in that they last forever under racing conditions (1991 Le Mans, glorious endurance racing record etc.).
Now that I've decided to go with an Evolution, I'm not completely sure how my habits will have to change. I can certainly see that I will need to shift earlier. I'm more concerned about maintenance and how well the Evolution engines hold up.
So guys, any experiences? I don't see many Evos out on the track..., so I'm not sure if there's even an answer to this. What are the long term problems for Evo IX/Xs when owned by a weekend racer?
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I've decided to man up and get myself a faster car...
It's Evolution IX vs Evolution X for me. Whichever car I buy, it's going to be pushed hard on the track. VERY hard.
Thus far, my little rotary Mazda RX-8 hasn't shown so much as a hiccup on the track. It just seems to be in its element when its out there pushing 9000rpms all day. In fact, when I'm done, the engine seems to run smoother. I tend to attribute this as a characteristic of rotary engines, in that they last forever under racing conditions (1991 Le Mans, glorious endurance racing record etc.).
Now that I've decided to go with an Evolution, I'm not completely sure how my habits will have to change. I can certainly see that I will need to shift earlier. I'm more concerned about maintenance and how well the Evolution engines hold up.
So guys, any experiences? I don't see many Evos out on the track..., so I'm not sure if there's even an answer to this. What are the long term problems for Evo IX/Xs when owned by a weekend racer?
It's Evolution IX vs Evolution X for me. Whichever car I buy, it's going to be pushed hard on the track. VERY hard.
Thus far, my little rotary Mazda RX-8 hasn't shown so much as a hiccup on the track. It just seems to be in its element when its out there pushing 9000rpms all day. In fact, when I'm done, the engine seems to run smoother. I tend to attribute this as a characteristic of rotary engines, in that they last forever under racing conditions (1991 Le Mans, glorious endurance racing record etc.).
Now that I've decided to go with an Evolution, I'm not completely sure how my habits will have to change. I can certainly see that I will need to shift earlier. I'm more concerned about maintenance and how well the Evolution engines hold up.
So guys, any experiences? I don't see many Evos out on the track..., so I'm not sure if there's even an answer to this. What are the long term problems for Evo IX/Xs when owned by a weekend racer?
-Going faster, much faster
-Easy to drive on a track
-Harder to crash
-Safer in subpar conditions (wet/cold track)
-Much larger aftermarket
-Much more versatility when you're not on the track (5 pass, big trunk)
-4g63 engines have been around around 17 years
-Can actually get places in the snow
Consequently, you will use more gas, more brakes, etc.
But seriously,
-if you drive like an idiot, you will need to replace the clutch.
-If you buy a used one, make sure that its legit, or else you might inherit another's problems (any used car).
-You will have to fill it with gas and change the fluids regularly
-AWD fluid changes are a little more labor intensive.
-You will get the modding bug, because of the large aftermarket and how easy it is to make it faster.
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A lot faster. They have very little mass to keep moving, and the moment of the spinning rotors being conserved for the next cycle helps move it along. Doesn't hurt that Mazda put a pretty lightweight flywheel either.
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I'm laughing at the reliability comparison between the RENESIS and the 4G63...
Dead on.
Allow me to add:
- You can move your car around your driveway without the engine flooding
- You won't have to constantly add oil (is that a 2-stroke you have there??)
- No Apex seals to replace if you knock
- Actually makes MORE power form the factory than advertised, not LESS
I'm not familiar with the 4B11 but I don't have a worry in the world for my 4G63...
As stated, more robust motor, better aftermarket, more utility.
What will you be giving up? Besides those awesome french doors
, some handling prowess...the 50/50 weight distribution and low CG are hard to beat... until you mod.
Long term problems vs your RX8....
-Going faster, much faster
-Easy to drive on a track
-Harder to crash
-Safer in subpar conditions (wet/cold track)
-Much larger aftermarket
-Much more versatility when you're not on the track (5 pass, big trunk)
-4g63 engines have been around around 17 years
-Can actually get places in the snow
Consequently, you will use more gas, more brakes, etc.
-Going faster, much faster
-Easy to drive on a track
-Harder to crash
-Safer in subpar conditions (wet/cold track)
-Much larger aftermarket
-Much more versatility when you're not on the track (5 pass, big trunk)
-4g63 engines have been around around 17 years
-Can actually get places in the snow
Consequently, you will use more gas, more brakes, etc.
Allow me to add:
- You can move your car around your driveway without the engine flooding
- You won't have to constantly add oil (is that a 2-stroke you have there??)
- No Apex seals to replace if you knock
- Actually makes MORE power form the factory than advertised, not LESS
I'm not familiar with the 4B11 but I don't have a worry in the world for my 4G63...
As stated, more robust motor, better aftermarket, more utility.
What will you be giving up? Besides those awesome french doors
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lol at the person recomending a supra for a track car, sounds like this guy should get a evo or sti.. but looks likes hes looked into it some and decided to get a evo. What i would do is test drive what your intrested in and go from there.
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