Factory MR gauges, Boost gauge accuracy, and other...?
Nov 24, 2008, 02:23 PM
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guys, no one still answered the 2nd Question!
on the factory MR boost gauge, is it possible to add bar/graphs to the face of the gauge, as i showed in the photos, and get an accurate reading thats beyond the factory boost level?
I suppose the answer would be yes, if the gauge itself can measure it, and its just that the face of the factory gauge ends on 1.5bar (while in reality the needle goes beyond the limit). however, the answer would be No, if the sensor itself wont be able to measure past the stock boost of 20-21psi, so then its useless and irrelevant to draw new bars on the gauge, cause it wont measure past 21psi anyway ???
on the factory MR boost gauge, is it possible to add bar/graphs to the face of the gauge, as i showed in the photos, and get an accurate reading thats beyond the factory boost level?
I suppose the answer would be yes, if the gauge itself can measure it, and its just that the face of the factory gauge ends on 1.5bar (while in reality the needle goes beyond the limit). however, the answer would be No, if the sensor itself wont be able to measure past the stock boost of 20-21psi, so then its useless and irrelevant to draw new bars on the gauge, cause it wont measure past 21psi anyway ???
Nov 25, 2008, 09:57 AM
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guys, no one still answered the 2nd Question!
on the factory MR boost gauge, is it possible to add bar/graphs to the face of the gauge, as i showed in the photos, and get an accurate reading thats beyond the factory boost level?
I suppose the answer would be yes, if the gauge itself can measure it, and its just that the face of the factory gauge ends on 1.5bar (while in reality the needle goes beyond the limit). however, the answer would be No, if the sensor itself wont be able to measure past the stock boost of 20-21psi, so then its useless and irrelevant to draw new bars on the gauge, cause it wont measure past 21psi anyway ???
on the factory MR boost gauge, is it possible to add bar/graphs to the face of the gauge, as i showed in the photos, and get an accurate reading thats beyond the factory boost level?
I suppose the answer would be yes, if the gauge itself can measure it, and its just that the face of the factory gauge ends on 1.5bar (while in reality the needle goes beyond the limit). however, the answer would be No, if the sensor itself wont be able to measure past the stock boost of 20-21psi, so then its useless and irrelevant to draw new bars on the gauge, cause it wont measure past 21psi anyway ???
Here is the problem and it applies to all gauges, not just the stock piece. As we gauge boost by the spike, the human eye can't always catch its orientation on the gauge - regardless of its accuracy - as the needle moves too fast. As such, it's very easy to fool yourself into thinking that the boost is set lower than it actually is. I've been there, myself. Why not eliminate the uncertainty and log your boost with a JDM MAP sensor? I'm assuming that you're logging the car already. If not, I wouldn't suggest playing with boost until you're able to do so.
Nov 25, 2008, 10:15 AM
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This is what i did with mine.. i hated the factory gauges they were way too small and very hard to read IMO.. these gauges arent that expensive and i really like them. They seem to be pretty accurate but i did not have a chance to compare them to anything. They seem bright in the pictures but they really arent..
Just giving you an option...
This is what i did with mine.. i hated the factory gauges they were way too small and very hard to read IMO.. these gauges arent that expensive and i really like them. They seem to be pretty accurate but i did not have a chance to compare them to anything. They seem bright in the pictures but they really arent..
Just giving you an option...
Nov 25, 2008, 11:10 AM
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yours looks nice, and although i need some gauges, Im a big fan of everything thats stock, so i was kinda trying to avoid replacing the whole gauge pod. yes, the OEM gauges are tiny and hard to read, especially while driving and paying attention to the road, but i would still rather keep them, cause the whole panel goes well with the rest of the dash and console...
Im not worried about just looks, more worried that since im running more boost (23psi), my stock gauge ends on 20-21si, and i wanna see how/when it hits my max of 23, or whether it hits the max at all... i see the needles going past the limit of 1.5kg/cm^2, and it hits some empty space on the face of the gauge.
I guess since the sensor can measure more, i will just draw more bars on the face (as I showed and discussed), and try to get a reading off of that.
I agree with FJF that eventhough the gauge will show it, i wont be able to see it fast enough cause the needle only hits the max for a split second, and I wont be able to see it while driving... i'll either have someone else in the cr, or set up a camera somehow to tape what happens to the needle at the very max....
Im not worried about just looks, more worried that since im running more boost (23psi), my stock gauge ends on 20-21si, and i wanna see how/when it hits my max of 23, or whether it hits the max at all... i see the needles going past the limit of 1.5kg/cm^2, and it hits some empty space on the face of the gauge.
I guess since the sensor can measure more, i will just draw more bars on the face (as I showed and discussed), and try to get a reading off of that.
I agree with FJF that eventhough the gauge will show it, i wont be able to see it fast enough cause the needle only hits the max for a split second, and I wont be able to see it while driving... i'll either have someone else in the cr, or set up a camera somehow to tape what happens to the needle at the very max....
Nov 25, 2008, 12:46 PM
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yours looks nice, and although i need some gauges, Im a big fan of everything thats stock, so i was kinda trying to avoid replacing the whole gauge pod. yes, the OEM gauges are tiny and hard to read, especially while driving and paying attention to the road, but i would still rather keep them, cause the whole panel goes well with the rest of the dash and console...
Im not worried about just looks, more worried that since im running more boost (23psi), my stock gauge ends on 20-21si, and i wanna see how/when it hits my max of 23, or whether it hits the max at all... i see the needles going past the limit of 1.5kg/cm^2, and it hits some empty space on the face of the gauge.
I guess since the sensor can measure more, i will just draw more bars on the face (as I showed and discussed), and try to get a reading off of that.
I agree with FJF that eventhough the gauge will show it, i wont be able to see it fast enough cause the needle only hits the max for a split second, and I wont be able to see it while driving... i'll either have someone else in the cr, or set up a camera somehow to tape what happens to the needle at the very max....
Im not worried about just looks, more worried that since im running more boost (23psi), my stock gauge ends on 20-21si, and i wanna see how/when it hits my max of 23, or whether it hits the max at all... i see the needles going past the limit of 1.5kg/cm^2, and it hits some empty space on the face of the gauge.
I guess since the sensor can measure more, i will just draw more bars on the face (as I showed and discussed), and try to get a reading off of that.
I agree with FJF that eventhough the gauge will show it, i wont be able to see it fast enough cause the needle only hits the max for a split second, and I wont be able to see it while driving... i'll either have someone else in the cr, or set up a camera somehow to tape what happens to the needle at the very max....
Nov 25, 2008, 09:17 PM
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i use a wireless ipod connect which plugs into the 12v jack. wow what a nightmare... static gallore, it picks up every possible stray signal or noise on the street, and half the time it just doesnt work at all (and i got the best one on the market, Belkin, $90)
Nov 26, 2008, 11:06 AM
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where did you source your info from regarding the MR factory guages? I don't think it's true. But then again, you are bound to find some defects/non properly functioning devices when they are massively distributed.
Nov 26, 2008, 11:13 AM
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