How would you decontent the EVO?
Sep 26, 2003, 05:27 PM
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How would you decontent the EVO?
Say you were a product planner for Mitsubishi and needed to produce an EVO that could be sold for considerably less than $30k. Which features/components would you eliminate if you had to make a profit at $25k?
My list:
No HID
No standard A/C
No power windows
No standard radio
No Recarros
No Brembos
No rear window washer
215 x 16 wheels & tires
Steel hood & fenders w/flares
No intercooler spray (maybe make the FMIC an option)
Need to keep the engine & AWD.
My list:
No HID
No standard A/C
No power windows
No standard radio
No Recarros
No Brembos
No rear window washer
215 x 16 wheels & tires
Steel hood & fenders w/flares
No intercooler spray (maybe make the FMIC an option)
Need to keep the engine & AWD.
Sep 26, 2003, 11:08 PM
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Re: How would you decontent the EVO?
Originally posted by Dale_K
Say you were a product planner for Mitsubishi and needed to produce an EVO that could be sold for considerably less than $30k. Which features/components would you eliminate if you had to make a profit at $25k?
My list:
No HID
No standard A/C
No power windows
No standard radio
No Recarros
No Brembos
No rear window washer
215 x 16 wheels & tires
Steel hood & fenders w/flares
No intercooler spray (maybe make the FMIC an option)
Need to keep the engine & AWD.
Say you were a product planner for Mitsubishi and needed to produce an EVO that could be sold for considerably less than $30k. Which features/components would you eliminate if you had to make a profit at $25k?
My list:
No HID
No standard A/C
No power windows
No standard radio
No Recarros
No Brembos
No rear window washer
215 x 16 wheels & tires
Steel hood & fenders w/flares
No intercooler spray (maybe make the FMIC an option)
Need to keep the engine & AWD.
No offense to the Ozzies 'round here.
Sep 27, 2003, 02:29 AM
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I don't think it's such a bad idea either. But if I had to give up my brakes, wheels & seats, I don't think I'd pay $25k for it.
And personally I would much rather see a better Evo for $35 than a lesser one for $25...
And personally I would much rather see a better Evo for $35 than a lesser one for $25...
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Sep 27, 2003, 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by BigBoogieman
I don't think it's such a bad idea either. But if I had to give up my brakes, wheels & seats, I don't think I'd pay $25k for it.
And personally I would much rather see a better Evo for $35 than a lesser one for $25...
I don't think it's such a bad idea either. But if I had to give up my brakes, wheels & seats, I don't think I'd pay $25k for it.
And personally I would much rather see a better Evo for $35 than a lesser one for $25...
Sep 27, 2003, 05:52 AM
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People know the Evolution is an amzing car.
If you start making "cheaper"Evolutions it will lose it's status.
It is like when Mercedes started making cheaper cars, now it is no big deal to have a Mercedes.
At least for now the Evolution gets huge respect.
To some people that means nothing and to others it means a lot.
Just a thought.
It might be nice to have a "stripped" version for racing though.
If you start making "cheaper"Evolutions it will lose it's status.
It is like when Mercedes started making cheaper cars, now it is no big deal to have a Mercedes.
At least for now the Evolution gets huge respect.
To some people that means nothing and to others it means a lot.
Just a thought.
It might be nice to have a "stripped" version for racing though.
Sep 27, 2003, 05:54 AM
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This Evo has already been put on a budget, one that leans towards performance, everything on this car gets the job done with safety and speed. I'll take the sports goodies it comes with, it's already a bargin (compare would it would cost to spiffy up any less expensive car to factory evolved specs).
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Many months ago I mentioned that the Evolution could be less expensive without the Brembos and people were all over me like a bum on a bologna sandwich. They said the Brembos are needed for racing. Since then I went the STPR Rally and NOT ONE EVO VIII HAD BREMBOS on it. 
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There are some rumors about a stripped down EVO coming next year. It looks to me like Mitsu has a disconnect between the target customers (young guys) and the $30k price. I see unsold EVO's everywhere but Dodge can't make enough SRT4's. The young guys can't afford the EVO. Most simply want a high powered, inexpensive car. It would be icing on the cake if the stripped down version was also faster than the current EVO due to a lower weight.
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Like what are you going to strip down that wont unbalance the car? It would be insane to let some idiot kids zoom around with 275hp, ****ty brakes, crap tires, they can't see at night, sitting on sloppy seats. How can you make the engine less expensive, yank the forging? What about the super strong RS tranny? make the gears thinner? The interior is already from a budget mobile. The car is extremely fast in all ways straight from the factory (if you've Got Shoe). Sure, on one point the Brembos have a "bling" factor to them...but what other mitsu brakes (I don't know Mitsu parts bin) have twin piston setups - that would be close in price...and work perfectly with the brake distribution via ABS? The "cheapest" street setups that work well are from Stoptech..at $1600...I doubt it will stop any shorter than it does now. This is NOT the type of car you want a bunch of inexperienced 18-25 YOs running around in. If you can't pony up $30K (it's not that much) then don't enter the race. It'd be like...I want a Cheap S4....hmmmm, or a Cheap M3...darn those guys making $50K cars!!
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I think It is absoulutely ludicrous for Mitsu to try and go cheaper. That is the biggest problem with business today. People want quality and options, not crap.
They need to be thinking about what things is the car missing that people are willing to give them their hard earned money for. Time for mitsu to earn some money. They need to off as options The AYC, SACD, Sequential Manual Transmission, better service and support, loaner Evo while in for service, etc. I'd pay $35k for the current Evo with all maintenance included, 325hp, Sequential Manual Transmission and a loaner when in for maintenance/service.
Going cheaper is the completely wrong way to go. They tried that with their 0-0-0 nonsense and now they still have no money but a bunch of people who can't pay for their cars now that they have to start paying.
Why do luxury/expensive companies continutually do better. Quality is paramount to longevity. Just as a any individuals reputation and choice of actions and words stick with them for life. Businesses that focus on providing the best bring people to them who are willing to spend a few extra dollars for less headache and proper customer service.
Money comes and goes, but time can never be recovered.
They haven't earned my money becuase of lack of a few additional options I would like to check on the order form.
Cruise Control, Sequential Manual Transmission, underbody paneling with rear diffuser. With this and an additional 50 hp, I'd be there right now. instead I'm just waiting, paying off the slocus (5 mos) to keep as the daily driver, and maybe going to purchase the Evo as a second toy for the weekends. If they had these as options I'd probably trade in the slocus and use the Evo as a daily driver/weekend fun car.
They need to be thinking about what things is the car missing that people are willing to give them their hard earned money for. Time for mitsu to earn some money. They need to off as options The AYC, SACD, Sequential Manual Transmission, better service and support, loaner Evo while in for service, etc. I'd pay $35k for the current Evo with all maintenance included, 325hp, Sequential Manual Transmission and a loaner when in for maintenance/service.
Going cheaper is the completely wrong way to go. They tried that with their 0-0-0 nonsense and now they still have no money but a bunch of people who can't pay for their cars now that they have to start paying.
Why do luxury/expensive companies continutually do better. Quality is paramount to longevity. Just as a any individuals reputation and choice of actions and words stick with them for life. Businesses that focus on providing the best bring people to them who are willing to spend a few extra dollars for less headache and proper customer service.
Money comes and goes, but time can never be recovered.
They haven't earned my money becuase of lack of a few additional options I would like to check on the order form.
Cruise Control, Sequential Manual Transmission, underbody paneling with rear diffuser. With this and an additional 50 hp, I'd be there right now. instead I'm just waiting, paying off the slocus (5 mos) to keep as the daily driver, and maybe going to purchase the Evo as a second toy for the weekends. If they had these as options I'd probably trade in the slocus and use the Evo as a daily driver/weekend fun car.