View Poll Results: How do you feel about Mitsubishi now?
I am still a loyal Mitsubishi customer.
138
22.22%
My view of Mitsubishi has changed for the worst and I likely won\'t buy another Mitsu product.
168
27.05%
It bugs me that Evo owners are being treated this way, but it doesnt affect my view of Mitsubishi and I would probably buy another product from them.
148
23.83%
I dont really care either way.
77
12.40%
I don\'t own an Evo or other Mitsu product.
48
7.73%
I hate Mitsubishi and don\'t want anything to do with them anymore.
42
6.76%
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Oct 23, 2003, 05:11 PM
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There are good amount companies in the black and many with good 15% net imrovement over last year for Q3. The auto industry isn't one, which is good for consumers looking for a car. But with any goods, more exotic goods are often sought by those insulated from economic swings. The Evo just sits on the line, if it were equiped with a few more goodies, it might be more appealing to those who have more of a buffer from the current slowly improving slump.
GPTourer it sounds like you work at a dealership. Sales? Finance? That is really good to hear none of the issues talked about around here have shown up there. Could Clinton's deals with the japanese all those years benefited Alabama. How many evos have you guys moved? What are the top reasons people aren't driving off the lot with an Evo around there?
GPTourer it sounds like you work at a dealership. Sales? Finance? That is really good to hear none of the issues talked about around here have shown up there. Could Clinton's deals with the japanese all those years benefited Alabama. How many evos have you guys moved? What are the top reasons people aren't driving off the lot with an Evo around there?
Oct 23, 2003, 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by JRock
You're missing the point - no new car should have rust or terrible paint with little-or-no clearcoat. Those are not acceptable at ANY LEVEL OF COST for a NEW car. They aren't valid options to place on the balance in the first place.
You're missing the point - no new car should have rust or terrible paint with little-or-no clearcoat. Those are not acceptable at ANY LEVEL OF COST for a NEW car. They aren't valid options to place on the balance in the first place.
Oct 23, 2003, 10:01 PM
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An Evo isn't a normal "ANY LEVEL OF COST" car, it's in a league of its own. It's hard to compare it to other cars because of they way it's built and distributed. It's obvious there are certain reasons you chose an Evo, if good paint is one of them, I'd be suited to leave you with this face =/
Oct 23, 2003, 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by MrBonus
Since when does a car need a clearcoat?
Since when does a car need a clearcoat?
Originally posted by jayarr
An Evo isn't a normal "ANY LEVEL OF COST" car, it's in a league of its own.
An Evo isn't a normal "ANY LEVEL OF COST" car, it's in a league of its own.
I defy you to say I'm asking too much to have a new car be a new car and have enough quality in it to at least last the 3/36 warranty.
Any manufacturer will tell you that - they would love for everything to work at least the length of the warranty so they aren't paying for replacement parts and labor hours. (They already screw the **** out of techs for pay on warranty work and we won't get into that but it's proof they (normal companies) don't WANT things to break or need to be fixed or replaced while the vehicle is under warranty).
Mitsu defies that logic and attempts to pass off a less-than-average quality product and they can get away with it because it's an awesome-performing car and because of people like you who don't mind problems that most new car owners find unacceptable. And when it's something serious they just deny the warranty claim anyway so it's win-win for them, but hopefully in the end it will hurt them because it's such an underhanded tactic.
Not that it matters much since there are so few being sold and so few total produced so it's okay in both directions - supply and demand.
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Oct 24, 2003, 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by jayarr
909 - What about the Evo is appealing to you? You obviously
care more about the way a car looks.
909 - What about the Evo is appealing to you? You obviously
care more about the way a car looks.
Oct 24, 2003, 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by JRock
Every new car needs paint that at least lasts the length of the warranty. In the Evo's case apparently a clearcoat would help a great deal with the "instant stain" issues several members have reported.
Every new car needs paint that at least lasts the length of the warranty. In the Evo's case apparently a clearcoat would help a great deal with the "instant stain" issues several members have reported.
(sarcasm) 
Oct 24, 2003, 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Mister2zx3
GPTourer it sounds like you work at a dealership. Sales? Finance? That is really good to hear none of the issues talked about around here have shown up there. Could Clinton's deals with the japanese all those years benefited Alabama. How many evos have you guys moved? What are the top reasons people aren't driving off the lot with an Evo around there?
GPTourer it sounds like you work at a dealership. Sales? Finance? That is really good to hear none of the issues talked about around here have shown up there. Could Clinton's deals with the japanese all those years benefited Alabama. How many evos have you guys moved? What are the top reasons people aren't driving off the lot with an Evo around there?
Yeah, we're like the new Detroit of the South down here. Honda, Toyota, Mercedes, and I think Hyundai (soon) have plants down here.
Oct 24, 2003, 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by 909
You see, I'm never a car brand loyalist. If BMW makes a good car, I'll buy it..but if their next generation of cars suck, I'll skip it. I'm just a car fan, not a fan of a particular brand of cars. I got the evo because of the whole package - meaning the performance, price, expensive parts that came with the car. And I still stand by what I said....if not for the Evo, I probably would never have owned a Mitsubishi - not that I look down on the brand or anything, just that they havent been making any good cars of late besides the evo (subjective of course).
You see, I'm never a car brand loyalist. If BMW makes a good car, I'll buy it..but if their next generation of cars suck, I'll skip it. I'm just a car fan, not a fan of a particular brand of cars. I got the evo because of the whole package - meaning the performance, price, expensive parts that came with the car. And I still stand by what I said....if not for the Evo, I probably would never have owned a Mitsubishi - not that I look down on the brand or anything, just that they havent been making any good cars of late besides the evo (subjective of course).
It's the way the Evo looks that you like, which is completely understandable.
Oct 24, 2003, 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by jayarr
You say you wouldn't like Mitsubishi if it weren't for the Evo, but you lack support to your argument. Your statement of the "performance, price, expensive parts that come with the car" is vague. The "performance" is from a 4G63 engine that comes standard with cars starting with the Galant VR4 and running through the 1G-2G Eclipse, 3000GT VR4, and Evo's (if I'm correct). The "price" isn't exactly "cheap" when you take into account all of the other cars who compete with if not top the performance of the Evo for a less of a price (given, the appearence of said cars may not be aesthetic). The "expensive parts" is what I think is hooking you. If you could find a '91 GVR4 with an engine that doesn't need immediate swapping, you could buy the car and throw in all those "expensive parts" for way less than $30k.
It's the way the Evo looks that you like, which is completely understandable.
You say you wouldn't like Mitsubishi if it weren't for the Evo, but you lack support to your argument. Your statement of the "performance, price, expensive parts that come with the car" is vague. The "performance" is from a 4G63 engine that comes standard with cars starting with the Galant VR4 and running through the 1G-2G Eclipse, 3000GT VR4, and Evo's (if I'm correct). The "price" isn't exactly "cheap" when you take into account all of the other cars who compete with if not top the performance of the Evo for a less of a price (given, the appearence of said cars may not be aesthetic). The "expensive parts" is what I think is hooking you. If you could find a '91 GVR4 with an engine that doesn't need immediate swapping, you could buy the car and throw in all those "expensive parts" for way less than $30k.
It's the way the Evo looks that you like, which is completely understandable.
Oct 25, 2003, 03:13 PM
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Performs as good in what? You say you're a WRC fan, so performs well on a track or performs well on the street or on a course? Because there are numerous cars that perform as well, they are just older and a little beat up.
Oct 25, 2003, 05:26 PM
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Mitsubisi cars are like heroin, hate my "dealer" but have to have the "product"!
I HATE all Mitsubishi dealerships. Period. End of Story.
I LOVE Mitsibishi AWD turbo cars. Period. End of story.
When I bought my EVO I didn't ask about the warrenty because as a former and current Mitsubishi owner I knew the warrenty was useless the day I bought my EVO. This is also why mine was modified and making 269 HP at the wheels less than a week after I bought it. If my warrenty is useless even if I remain stock why not modify the living **** out of the car and enjoy it?
The people I REALLY feel sorry for are the poor bastards who bought an extended warrenty. Should have saved that money for the repairs you will be making when your warrenty if voided
Keith
I HATE all Mitsubishi dealerships. Period. End of Story.
I LOVE Mitsibishi AWD turbo cars. Period. End of story.
When I bought my EVO I didn't ask about the warrenty because as a former and current Mitsubishi owner I knew the warrenty was useless the day I bought my EVO. This is also why mine was modified and making 269 HP at the wheels less than a week after I bought it. If my warrenty is useless even if I remain stock why not modify the living **** out of the car and enjoy it?
The people I REALLY feel sorry for are the poor bastards who bought an extended warrenty. Should have saved that money for the repairs you will be making when your warrenty if voided
Keith