It's the drivers actaully. You know that tracking/racing is dangerous and that events may happen that will put you in a life risking situation - period. It's not about fault or blame, you choose to go on track and accept the risk. You choose to go on tv, and accepted the risk that your car could be damaged, anything from a scratch to being totaled. Your personal insurance won't cover damage sustained in any form of competition - TV show or track day. we all know this, everyone who tracks their car knows it's on them.

Again, sorry your car got wrecked - that is no fun, and can make your blood boil. Best of luck with your crusade to stick it to the man. But this is not their first rodeo.

 

you took the words right out of mouth.

 

Well, if it truly wasn't rigged, and if MRinChrist really is wrong in what he is stating from the videos, this thread, and his accusations, then the producers of Bullrun/Speed wouldn't have a problem releasing the raw footage or testimonies associated with this, provided it is elevated to a high enough level (Interviews, TV broadcasts, etc)?

Also, I think the contact you signed when agreeing to play a part in the said show is a very important document to your case. Have you talked to other drivers from other seasons as well? Any other stories and insight would greatly help sway opinions in your favor.

 

It'll never happen. Cause it would incriminate them. They have criminally destroyed all evidence against them.

 

MR Turco, delete this if you feel it's inappropriate but I honestly do not see the point in this thread or why it belongs in the Evo general forums and not OT. It offers nothing new, there's no update on the situation other than it hasn't gone anywhere. It appears to be nothing more than an attention thread, a repeat of what the OP posted 6 months or more ago. It serves as a venting thread for the OP, and given his attitude to disagreeing opinions, that appears to be it's only purpose. There's no information on the Evo or Evos in general, there's no new information, it's an OT or trash thread through and through.

 

have anyone seen a Apeceeee high end intake ? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE1ZmIStzms


Proof

http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=74718.0

 

Your opinion, ambystom, is entirely based in your personal hatred of me...I feel dirty having made the mistake of taking you off ignore even this long.

Please go away.

 

Untrue. If a corner worker gives a driver no warning of the dangers of the track, knowing what they are, everybody involved with the ensuing crash can be found liable. The driver would bear no responsibility other than trusting the corner worker...If the race is nothing other than a made for TV stunt, that never was real and was fixed from the outset, it just becomes a made for TV stunt and the liability is far far greater...Our ONLY error was trusting that they would warn us that following the logical line, straight, wasn't a good idea.

Have you ever seen a finish line that had a hard left at the end?...I haven't...It was an improvised track and the open field looked like the logical line. They prohibited us from looking at it.

It would be like a TV show telling you to drive through a big white sheet for $200,000, but they didn't tell you about the hole they dug and concealed on the other side of the hole and you total your car in it...Illogical and asinine to blame the driver in such a scenario.

 

^^ but you went off the road and hit a cement block BTW the finish was straight through an open gate


Gravel mode doesnt work when your evo is slam to ground on lower springs. It's not like Gravel raises the evo up so you can go off road lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsJNf...eature=related

 

You are completey blind with guilt and greed my friend. IF you wreck on a track there is no insurance liability period. I am pretty sure a flag man isn't going to fork over money for a new car either. Let it go man... just let it go... Why don't you post PDF a copy of the contract you signed when you agreed to be on the show...

 

Actually no, my opinion is based on this logic.

You fully admit that you had to sign a contract to participate in Bullrun. I also assume that you were well aware that you'd be using your own car given that this wasn't the first season of Bullrun and you seemed pretty excited to represent the Evo community with your Evo. Back to the contract though. If there was a contract for participation, this means a few options are possible.
The first option is that the contract outlined the possibility that your car could be damaged or destroyed and removed any responsibility from Bullrun, Speed, Goldberg, etc. thus making the fate of your car, your responsibility. If you were unsure on the course, it was your responsibility, as outlined by the contract, to deal with it by asking, walking the course or driving slower. Given that you had to sign the contract to participate, if you did, this would make your claims a dead end. It's possible that you didn't read the contract in its entirety in which case the fault still lies with you.
The other option is that the contract did not fully outline what could happen. If this was the case, any lawyer worth his weight would jump at the opportunity to represent you. Why? Speed as a network has big pockets. If they didn't clearly state that your car could be damaged or destroyed, and legally removed responsibility from themselves, you could easily hold them accountable. It would be an easy case for almost any lawyer. Given that you freely admit to having difficulty finding representation, I find this very unlikely. Moreover, if the contract did not outline these things and you agreed to participate in these events against your apparent will, the fault is yours as you could easily have said no or walked away if you felt uncomfortable in the situation.
By all accords, the first option seems the most likely. You jumped into the deep end and ran into trouble.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1XcM...eature=related

 

MRinChrist, you created this thread - you live with what is out there. Whether factual or perceived, what the readers of these threads and watchers of the show saw and interpreted they will take as their truth.

If you cannot live with that outcome, then we can close this thread. And I would suggest to move on from the topic.

 

well said

 

Come on Smike, move this to OT, you know you want to .