What turbo are you running?

 

If you want the "driving experience" then you should be asking which turbo you need to get because FP Black and "fun driving" except a straight line have nothing in common.

 

the garret gt35R but i believe the whole kit was from atp!

 

yea thats a really inaccurate statement

 

I have autocrossed a couple cars with FP Blacks and 2.4L and let me tell you...It's nothing short of amazing.

 

I may be ignorant as I've never tried driving a big turbo car on an autocross but... Seriously though... Can you beat a stock turbo car with a big turbo setup on an autocross? Can you go faster through a turn with a big turbo on some mountain twisties? Can you press the pedal to the metal on corner exit?

I'm just stating my opinion about a fun setup. It's got nothing bigger than a HTA Green or similar. Anything that has 0 power down low and then suddenly kicks in like a monster can't take a turn properly. And anything that can't take a turn properly is not a fun car to me (from an Evo perspective). If you wanna go fast in a straight line, buy an american muscle. It'll be cheaper in the long run

Oh and ontopic addition: He's running an ATP GT35r setup. That's going to be laggy on 2.0, 2.3 or 2.4 Heck it'll prolly be laggy on a 3.0 aswell.

 

Its a hobby, I don't have real intentions of competition. As far as the cost, I am sending my ix turbo to fp for the upgrade so for the price of a 2.3 from ams I am getting the 2.4 and black for less still. Also ill have it all instead of having to goto ams for the block so I can do a lot of the work to save more on labor. I estimated everything and a total will be approx 6500 including labor but no clutch since I haven't decided yet so grand total maybe 8k for a built engine.

 

Id have to agree.. Talk to who is building the car for advice..

An fP black doesnt make power where the 2.0L revs over the 2.3L anyway so if it was my customer i would advise on a 2.3L..

Mike

 

I think there is a disconnect here... I have bought the 2.4 from slowboy racing. Already sent my turbo to fp. Already talked to ams about it all and they suggested I am good BUT depending on power I might need a new fuel system and they will see about keeping the stock ecu or upgrading.

 

I don't think you are ignorant but I do think you should try it out. It isn't as bad as it sounds. Of course I ran slower times than a car equipped with a stock turbo but I love the experience I get out of it. Especially if you are like me, I was in the same boat as you and thought a big turbo is useless unless it is striaght line but the 2.4L really helps. Personally on my car I have the stock turbo and nothing beats that in autocross but the styles of driving changes once you slap on a bigger turbo. I will be road racing soon and that is why I am going with an FP black set-up but I am keeping my stock turbo for autocrossing. I HATE going in a straight line so buying american muscle is not an option.

 

agreed. the 2.4 is going to spin the wheel off the black. Spool up will be nasty compared to any 2.0 plus black combo. if i was only autocrossing then hta green but im sure it would be maxed out.

 

I agree also, when I had installed my 272 cams on stock block and stock turbo I lost the low end and it was horrible in my opinion. That's why I wanted the 2.3 with a black and then I learned about the 2.4 and since I don't race its very cost effective in my case.

 

im just on stock cams and right when it hits @ 400rpm it just pull hard!!!got wheel spin

 

if you are going to pay that 9500 bill then pay for install for that then he will have a 2.2