trade evo for cts-v
Jan 5, 2011, 07:22 AM
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From what your needs are i would say a 05 subaru legacy gt would be perfect.
It doesnt have that highschool look like an evo, but still has 4 cylinder turbo, awd, good power and fun to drive.
It also has some luxury that you would find in a cadi, heated seats, thick leather, 6 cd changer, awesome sound system. The legacy even has heated windshield wipers, mirrors ect ect.
Its a very very nice car in the inside, and stylish on the outside.
It doesnt have that highschool look like an evo, but still has 4 cylinder turbo, awd, good power and fun to drive.
It also has some luxury that you would find in a cadi, heated seats, thick leather, 6 cd changer, awesome sound system. The legacy even has heated windshield wipers, mirrors ect ect.
Its a very very nice car in the inside, and stylish on the outside.
Jan 5, 2011, 07:26 AM
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I don't use my Evo as a daily driver and I"m pretty sure I wouldn't want to either. So, I can understand your inclination to trade for a more comfortable car. My daily is a Denali and like the comfy seats, audio/video, navigation, smooth ride in my daily commute...things I don't want in the Evo. As for rattles and squeaks...both cars have 100K miles and will have that sort of thing. My 06 Evo with 20k on it rattles far less than my 00 Denali with 212K on it.
I'm definitely a fan of the cts-v and have considered buying one as a daily driver myself. In fact, about 6 months ago I was shopping around for one. I would be more inclined to buy an 06 and up with mileage in the 60K range for a few grand more than a first year car with 100k. However, if a straight trade best suits your current financial situation and you believe you'll enjoy the caddy more then the only thing to consider is the current value of each.
IDK about caddy, but I couldn't find a shop around central TX that would do the Evo clutch for less than $800. Couple that with only a few of them would do an aftermarket/ perf clutch and clutch jobs on the Evo get real expensive. My exedy twin install ran me 2700 for parts and labor. I'm pretty sure on a RWD LS setup you could have one done for less.
I'm definitely a fan of the cts-v and have considered buying one as a daily driver myself. In fact, about 6 months ago I was shopping around for one. I would be more inclined to buy an 06 and up with mileage in the 60K range for a few grand more than a first year car with 100k. However, if a straight trade best suits your current financial situation and you believe you'll enjoy the caddy more then the only thing to consider is the current value of each.
IDK about caddy, but I couldn't find a shop around central TX that would do the Evo clutch for less than $800. Couple that with only a few of them would do an aftermarket/ perf clutch and clutch jobs on the Evo get real expensive. My exedy twin install ran me 2700 for parts and labor. I'm pretty sure on a RWD LS setup you could have one done for less.
Jan 5, 2011, 07:40 AM
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some of you guys are getting the wrong idea....
he is talking about an 04 CTSV - NOT THE NEW COUPE....
Its heavy, can't turn with a poop, your evo right now would put a hurt on that car as for terms of speed and handling...
As stated, I would look at a higher mileage BMW M3
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with 103k or whatever you have on your evo - look at replacing a few things to help quiet it down..
how are the motor mounts? Shocks? What type of tires do you run?
There are a few things that can help quiet the car down but at the end of the day, you bought a street going race car....
race cars make noises, they make squeeks... my answer, get a AMS TBE with test pipe and you wont hear any of it....
with as expensive as caddy's get to fix, I wouldn't do it...
any car with 100k+ is going to make noises!!
he is talking about an 04 CTSV - NOT THE NEW COUPE....
Its heavy, can't turn with a poop, your evo right now would put a hurt on that car as for terms of speed and handling...
As stated, I would look at a higher mileage BMW M3
or
with 103k or whatever you have on your evo - look at replacing a few things to help quiet it down..
how are the motor mounts? Shocks? What type of tires do you run?
There are a few things that can help quiet the car down but at the end of the day, you bought a street going race car....
race cars make noises, they make squeeks... my answer, get a AMS TBE with test pipe and you wont hear any of it....
with as expensive as caddy's get to fix, I wouldn't do it...
any car with 100k+ is going to make noises!!
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Jan 5, 2011, 08:12 AM
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i definetly am on the same boat as OP, my eye keeps wandering towards more luxury sports cars. i've grown out of that boy racer stage; evo is way too raw for me now. then again i know i'd loose money selling/trading it for something else, i can put that money into softening the evo up if need be.
private trades arent treated same as dealer trades when it comes to taxes. even if the evo and cts-v is even trade, you'll have to pay tax on the reasonable/fair value(cannot say your car is $100 price tag). so if your car is at minimum worth 10k, why not just spend $600(6% sales tax) on making your evo nicer?
do a full out sound deadening of your interior/trunk, adding 50lb weight is nothing compared to how fatty that cts-v is(04' ctsv is 3850 lbs!). hell you can add 100lbs to your evo and it will still be WAY lighter haha. invest in a quieter catback. get some nice SSL leather seats and a nice stereo.
private trades arent treated same as dealer trades when it comes to taxes. even if the evo and cts-v is even trade, you'll have to pay tax on the reasonable/fair value(cannot say your car is $100 price tag). so if your car is at minimum worth 10k, why not just spend $600(6% sales tax) on making your evo nicer?
do a full out sound deadening of your interior/trunk, adding 50lb weight is nothing compared to how fatty that cts-v is(04' ctsv is 3850 lbs!). hell you can add 100lbs to your evo and it will still be WAY lighter haha. invest in a quieter catback. get some nice SSL leather seats and a nice stereo.
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Jan 5, 2011, 08:19 AM
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LOL, you actually have a very minor upgrade list...
when you get into built motors, upgraded turbo's, aggressive coil overs, your car turns into a whole new machine...
i see where alot of people are looking at more tame luxury sport cars but with the expense that goes with em id still stick with an evo...
many things you can dial down and lose some of that boy racer issue... sometimes people need a switch to a different car to realize how good we have it with the evo...
i have yet to drive a car that is as nimble and can handle like the evo in the same weight category, as well as produce equal horsepower to $ modifications...
My next car will more than likely be a Acura NSX....
when you get into built motors, upgraded turbo's, aggressive coil overs, your car turns into a whole new machine...
i see where alot of people are looking at more tame luxury sport cars but with the expense that goes with em id still stick with an evo...
many things you can dial down and lose some of that boy racer issue... sometimes people need a switch to a different car to realize how good we have it with the evo...
i have yet to drive a car that is as nimble and can handle like the evo in the same weight category, as well as produce equal horsepower to $ modifications...
My next car will more than likely be a Acura NSX....
Jan 5, 2011, 08:40 AM
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I researched them for a while. The 04 and 05 have rear diff issues and many replace them from 06 and up. Another issue is the stereo unit having buttons that flake off which GM warrantied on some. Worn motor mounts is also another common problem and most people upgrade to aftermarket. They take to mods well and they are comfortable and compact. The whine with a maggie bolted to it is pretty awesome. Also, clutch is heavy, but to be expected. Seats don't hug as much, but even ones with higher miles dont have much bolster wear.
If you want one, look on cadillacforums for one, you can find modded and maintained ones for cheap.
If you want one, look on cadillacforums for one, you can find modded and maintained ones for cheap.
Motor mounts, rear diff, etc have all been replaced. New brakes, tires, etc too.
From what your needs are i would say a 05 subaru legacy gt would be perfect.
It doesnt have that highschool look like an evo, but still has 4 cylinder turbo, awd, good power and fun to drive.
It also has some luxury that you would find in a cadi, heated seats, thick leather, 6 cd changer, awesome sound system. The legacy even has heated windshield wipers, mirrors ect ect.
Its a very very nice car in the inside, and stylish on the outside.
It doesnt have that highschool look like an evo, but still has 4 cylinder turbo, awd, good power and fun to drive.
It also has some luxury that you would find in a cadi, heated seats, thick leather, 6 cd changer, awesome sound system. The legacy even has heated windshield wipers, mirrors ect ect.
Its a very very nice car in the inside, and stylish on the outside.
Parts, yes. Maintenance, probably the same-ish.
some of you guys are getting the wrong idea....
he is talking about an 04 CTSV - NOT THE NEW COUPE....
Its heavy, can't turn with a poop, your evo right now would put a hurt on that car as for terms of speed and handling...
As stated, I would look at a higher mileage BMW M3
or
with 103k or whatever you have on your evo - look at replacing a few things to help quiet it down..
how are the motor mounts? Shocks? What type of tires do you run?
There are a few things that can help quiet the car down but at the end of the day, you bought a street going race car....
race cars make noises, they make squeeks... my answer, get a AMS TBE with test pipe and you wont hear any of it....
with as expensive as caddy's get to fix, I wouldn't do it...
any car with 100k+ is going to make noises!!
he is talking about an 04 CTSV - NOT THE NEW COUPE....
Its heavy, can't turn with a poop, your evo right now would put a hurt on that car as for terms of speed and handling...
As stated, I would look at a higher mileage BMW M3
or
with 103k or whatever you have on your evo - look at replacing a few things to help quiet it down..
how are the motor mounts? Shocks? What type of tires do you run?
There are a few things that can help quiet the car down but at the end of the day, you bought a street going race car....
race cars make noises, they make squeeks... my answer, get a AMS TBE with test pipe and you wont hear any of it....
with as expensive as caddy's get to fix, I wouldn't do it...
any car with 100k+ is going to make noises!!
I would buy a E46 M3, but I want to finish my degree first without having students loans. So far so good
Hopefully within the next 2-3 years
I appreciate your guys's input. I'm sure if I didn't DD the evo, I would appreciate it more... To me, it's just a car.
Jan 5, 2011, 10:10 AM
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Personally i love Evos ill never get rid of mine but i can hear where you coming from. For your situation i say go for it and go have fun with that LS motor. i hate GM with a passion but love the LS series motors lol
Jan 5, 2011, 11:01 AM
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Hey Man Do it! do what makes YOU happy hell im all over the place with cars and drive the **** out of them then get rid of them normally within a year to year and half. i say explore you might love it!
Jan 5, 2011, 11:13 AM
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Will this be your first luxury (or even semi-luxury) car? Reason I'm asking, is because my old car (350z) had the nice leather seats w/ heaters, cruise, built in nav, power seats, etc... never used any of it. Hated the added weight and really hated the power seats. That's the reason I have an Evo now... everything I need and nothing I don't.
That being said, I think you should do it and get it out of your system. If you don't like it, you'll be back in a few months.
That being said, I think you should do it and get it out of your system. If you don't like it, you'll be back in a few months.