Dom_J

What's up EvoM,

I'm in a foreign country w/not much help on this Evo. I just want anyone/everyone who has a second to drop EVERY "no start" condition you can think of for the Evo.

Car turns over perfectly fine but just will not start.

I've check:
-Fuel
-Spark
-Compression
-Timing("Halfway" I guess ie. Only check the marks on the head @ TDC and the cogs in between them)
-Voltage

Throw them all at me! What ever else you can think of!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX2lLwJOPwE

05VIII

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well does it have fuel? spark? compression? is timing correct?

anything recently done to it?

was it running before? if so what changed since then?

Tfresh

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maybe something with the immobilizer?

gsrboi80

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Ignition fuse/s blown.

5LEEPERISAH23I

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have the same problem right now..

mine when the motor is warm starts up fine...

but cold start 90% of the time it doesnt start

jvb6806

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check the water temp sensor to the ECU. it might not be recognizing the cold start condition and keeping the fuel mixture lean.

Dom_J

Was running...only for a little while, it was transported from Japan(about 2 months), on the road about a week before the issues.

Started hearing a clutch chatter type of sound...nothing like rod knock or whatever, it did get a little worse when the car died. It honestly just sounded like clutch chatter, once the engine would catch up to the revs, it would go away.
Que?? Is that a joke lol
I've checked over them. I'll go take another look but I'd imagine I wouldn't get any type of spark if there were a bad fuse on the ignition side. Could be wrong.
Odd thing is...I noticed the coolant reservoir was empty when we first went to look over things. Naturally, I filled it....as we started an attempt to push start the car in the beginning stages of trouble shooting. The car spit all the coolant out at the radiator. Holds fine when it's sitting though. Could be irrelevant but its odd.


There is also an idle issue(I believe). If I row through the gears just on regular type acceleration, when I reach speed and attempt coasting, the revs drop normally but they fall low enough to shut the car down completely. Once again, probably irrelevant but doesn't hurt to mention it.

05VIII

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what i ment was

when you checked for fuel, did it have fuel?

when you checked for spark, did it have spark?

if it has both then the only reason it wont start is no compression or your engine is seized.
or maybe off timing

sk82712

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Dom, I have a feeling we're both overseas for the same reasons haha.

Anyway, more or less the same thing just happened to my IX. FINALLY got it to a dealer after I got home from deployment, and they said it was my fuel pump and sender unit....even though I had replaced a Walbro with an OEM with a Walbro..... It was only sending 1 bar (hence why I still had fuel @ the injectors), but it should have been sending 3 bar.

Other things to check: MAP / MAF / Crank angle sensor.

-Adam

_mcjonnyp

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^ map/maf/cas would throw a check engine light

check the timing again.. just because the cam gears are in time doesnt mean the crank will be..

check the injectors with a noid light to make sure they're pulsing

Dom_J

Does that sound like a seized engine on the vid? That'd suck....I honestly haven't done a REAL compression test. Only the old back yard mechanic putting your fingers up to the hole trick. Its near impossible to find a damn compression tester out here. I think I finally found a spot.

But yes it was spitting fuel out of the rail, and the injectors. I did see spark from the plugs
Haha yea I'm definitely sure we're overseas for the same cause...can't complain too much huh? haha

That's definitely some great info...I did try squeezing the line off of the regulator in hopes of raising pressure a bit. Didn't really affect start up. I need to find a good Mistu dealer asap though, that'd be a life safer!
I need to take the time to actually get into all that I guess....never really done much w/timing before on any of my vehicles. I wish I would have read a code before I cleared the computer, wasn't thinking.

I guess I could go through and check the injectors again w/the noid light also.

05VIII

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what video?


if you have spark and fuel then i dont see a reason for it to not turn over unless you have no compression

Dallas J

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Ive had problems with my DSM when the water temp sensor wire broke at the connector. It wouldnt start at all. If you can, log the coolant temp sensor. Mine said something like -70* when the wire broke. Even disconnected the MAF wont throw a code till the car starts running for a few min. I know this cause I have a bad habit of putting the intake back on and forgetting to plug it in but even disconnected it would still start up

Map Sensor is generally for EGR purposes and shouldnt effect startup.

Cam or Crank sensor would effect spark.

jvb6806

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that is exactly how i learned about this problem 7 years ago

5LEEPERISAH23I

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when i logged my coolent temp it read 37 degrees n that what it was outside give or that.

so my water temp senor is working then?