RockmanX

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as already stated if you search you will find several buschur motor and other etc that have lasted 100k LOL even some on 50k you have to search around there actually is a thread somebody made asking and people chimed in

Hardware

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This is that thread. I don't believe there was many cars above 25,000 miles. And I don't remember any over 50,000.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...rs-turbos.html

I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I have yet to find an owner with hard facts. Just speculation from everyone with an opinion.

SmurfZilla

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Most times you never hear about it because after someone does a major build they end up selling it shortly after some strange reason.

cs82685

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Adam the best thing you can do is sell those parts and use the money for hpde's. You won't regret it. Having a venue to safely push your car to it'd limits is so much more fun than having gobs of power you rarely need/use

FJF

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I think the reasons are logical, but unexpected, which is what you may be trying to say. A guy does a major build, spends umpteen K, and still has a ~3200lb car with a 2-2.4L motor. Except...now it's temperamental, unreliable, has an unusable powerband on the street. A car that was once fun to drive is now a chore to maneuver around. It's not even that great being in it: rock-hard suspension, almost solid motor mounts and bushings, and a bank vault would start to rattle. There's only one benefactor in all this - a hobby in itself. Well, that and the vendors. I bet most can't remember, or just don't know, how great the car was to drive bone stock.

AreSTG

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lol. i thought you were referencing bankruptcy

RockmanX

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You dont buy all your mods on credit and you will not have that problem im well aware of alot of people finiancing builds with the CC im not one of them all mine parts are paid off i learned watching others hints selling of the car so quick or not enjoying the car as much because of the debt bill attached to it along with the carnote and insurance that cant be fun LOL

AreSTG

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well, luckily my car's paid off, and my build is paid in full on Debit not Credit.

The significantly lower bank account balance is annoying though... It could have been a lot of hookers and blow

RockmanX

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I could have paid my car off instead of doing my build and have money left over but my evo was in terrible shape with a cracked head on it from jump street so had to be done before things got worse and besides my build was very very very fun

SmurfZilla

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Yeah I guess I meant to say temperamental.

I hope my car isn't completely unusable and rattle trap.

SmurfZilla

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The only thing I can say right now is I'm happy I paid everything in cash and don't have a bill to contend with esp. since I'm still not driving my car. LOL.

SRTRaceR04

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I've got (knock on wood) more than 25k on my 2.3L. Just did a leak down and compression and it came out great. Made 450whp on the last Dyno Dynamics it was on. It may help that I don't beat the crap out of my car from stop light to stop light. Make no mistake that this engine has been raced though. Never ragged, but definitely raced.

On a different note at this point I find stock-bolt on Evos to be more entertaining to drive. If you plan on racing then yes build the motor. If you plan to drive normal 90% of the time (like me) then a bolt-on Evo is more for you. With my power and external gate it's obnoxious to go WOT unless I need to (race). Doing it around random people in traffic I'm sure makes me look like an ***.

I'm personally thinking about selling my Evo and getting a Z06. Been looking at them for a while and want to switch platforms. The Evo is great, but not an idol like a lot of people around here will have you believe. Probably why I don't like a lot of Evo owners because they believe themselves to be driving God's chariot and that's just not the fact. A lot are 2 steps short of being SRT4 drivers!! No offense to current SRT owners ( I owned one for 2 years...it sucked), but 99% of SRT owners I've met are tool boxes that cannot lose.

Smart man. I own my car. No debts on any part on it. Makes no sense to me to get credit on a car you owe money on.

blackenedwings

It also depends on the person and the build they do. At pretty much every step of my modification I've had friends telling me the next thing I'm doing is going to "make me hate the car", and they've been wrong every time.

Some people don't mind a rock-hard suspension, tin-can interior, loud as hell exhaust etc. The problem with a lot of motor builds is people chasing the eFame of a big dyno number and not having a clear idea what they are building. If you are a dedicated drag racer who lives your life a 1/4 mile at a time F&F style, then a peaky huge turbo is probably fine, but most of the people who do these builds and then get the car on the street are miserable because the peak power is there, but the fun is gone.

I personally don't believe in leaving any Evo stock... ever. The car is capable of SO much more with minor changes, its silly to not at the very least do bolt-ons and a tune. You won't affect the reliability or drivability in any way and you can gain ~100 whp easily. If you have the money, getting a stock frame turbo and cams won't hurt your reliability either.

I far prefer my 400+ whp Evo to the 300 whp one I started with, and I'm converting to E85 to see what I think of a 500 whp Evo. Chances are I'll like it even more.

SmurfZilla

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I haven't had a car note since my 98 brand new ITR in 98. I decided to pull the trigger on my car for full pop because I hated modding cars I was paying a note on in the past. Takes the fun out of it. Esp. when your car is broken and you are paying a note for something you cant drive. Been there done that.

FJF

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Then, these aren't the folks selling their cars after a build, which was the point behind the post to which you replied. There are also some people who don't mind paying for new transmissions, new rods, new lifters, etc and claim to love every minute of the way there...until their cars are sold a year or two later.