Heel and toe maneuvering in Evo IX
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I wear a size 12 and out of all the cars I've ever driven the evo has been the easiest to heel-toe in... When I had my 350z I never heel-toe'd because it just seemed too difficult. With the evo I do exactly what PKevo does it... it just feels natural. Use the big toe to brake and the "proximal end of the 5th metatarsal" aka the side of my foot to blip the throttle.
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I actually find it very comfortable to heel toe, all the pedals r in the perfect place for me. I use the turn my foot method. For reference im 5' 9" ~ 130lbs Shoe size 9.5
Example about 1 min in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4auYr_p-jk
Example about 1 min in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4auYr_p-jk
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I have a size 12 shoe and wear DCs... Yeah, possibly the widest shoe ever made, but thats what I like to wear, so I encountered this problem along time ago. I actually do it this way, might be worth a try, but with the pedal spacing, you might not be able to reach it. It doesn't look as cool, but is so much easier (for me).
No, the video is not me driving...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihc9r...eature=related
No, the video is not me driving...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihc9r...eature=related
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Yeah, I agree that barefoot is the best way to get the feel for it initially. Well, actually I prefer shoeless but with socks on my feet.
I found that I sort of hang the lower inside edge of the ball of the right foot lightly on the very edge of the brake pedal and reach the bottom of the gas pedal with the innermost surface of my right heel. I wear a size 11.5 D.
I try to do as much left foot braking as possible though so that my right foot can just ride at a downward angle on the very edge of the brake pedal lightly. I hardly ever plant the sole of my right foot flat onto the brake pedal though. Instead, it has to sit lightly at a downward angle on the very sheer inner edge of the pedal. So, that to accelerate the right foot just falls down off the edge of the brake pedal and you accelerate with the outside edge of your right foot not the flat of the sole of the right foot(more or less what taylorgang is talking about).
I found that I sort of hang the lower inside edge of the ball of the right foot lightly on the very edge of the brake pedal and reach the bottom of the gas pedal with the innermost surface of my right heel. I wear a size 11.5 D.
I try to do as much left foot braking as possible though so that my right foot can just ride at a downward angle on the very edge of the brake pedal lightly. I hardly ever plant the sole of my right foot flat onto the brake pedal though. Instead, it has to sit lightly at a downward angle on the very sheer inner edge of the pedal. So, that to accelerate the right foot just falls down off the edge of the brake pedal and you accelerate with the outside edge of your right foot not the flat of the sole of the right foot(more or less what taylorgang is talking about).
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I'm 6'4" 195, size 13/14 shoe, and the EVO has been the easiest car for me to heel-toe in. not sure why you'd have any issues. I turn my foot a bit when I do it, but I'm basically using the side of my foot and not the actual heel.
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Do you have the video link? I'd like to see how his foot rotated inward. To me, it all seems so bizarre and counterintuitive. After hours of driving, I know I'll definitely have strain/pain if I adopt that method. I think the big toe/little toe method might be the best sounding option for me. Thanks tho!
I've found the other way people are describing sometimes resulted in my foot slipping off the brake which is the last thing you want when braking hard
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I wear Piloti Prototipo shoes and find heel-toeing extremely easy in the Evo once I got used to the difference from my RX-8. I actually heel-toe two different ways depending on the type of braking I'm doing in the Evo. Remember, you will almost always be able to HT easier the harder you brake. This is hard to learn on the street safely because you are rarely braking hard enough to easily do it until you are practiced.
Because of the pedal placement when I brake really hard (like turn 1 and turn 5 at Summit Point) I roll my foot to the side, blipping the throttle with the top/side of my right foot. This puts the edge of my foot almost between the pedals. My feet are too long to hit the throttle with my heel. If I'm braking lightly I use the pad of my foot under my pinkie toe and kick my heel out to press that part of the shoe on the throttle.
Properly rev matching the car requires a pretty decent blip of the throttle compared to my (now NA) RX-8, you want to make the rpms jump enough to evenly match the engine speed. A lot of people talk about heel-toe downshifting like its this black art and really impressive... it's not. It's actually very easy to learn with some practice.
Because of the pedal placement when I brake really hard (like turn 1 and turn 5 at Summit Point) I roll my foot to the side, blipping the throttle with the top/side of my right foot. This puts the edge of my foot almost between the pedals. My feet are too long to hit the throttle with my heel. If I'm braking lightly I use the pad of my foot under my pinkie toe and kick my heel out to press that part of the shoe on the throttle.
Properly rev matching the car requires a pretty decent blip of the throttle compared to my (now NA) RX-8, you want to make the rpms jump enough to evenly match the engine speed. A lot of people talk about heel-toe downshifting like its this black art and really impressive... it's not. It's actually very easy to learn with some practice.