Launched my car for the first time last night...
#16
Congratz you did let it slip a little too much but the first launch is always the best, popping that cherry makes you smile. Ive had my days were Ive launched countless times still no problems.
#18
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: sacramento
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What exactly does "wheel hop" feel like? I feel like it would be when the car kinda jumps forward without spinning the wheels
Searched it on Google and this came up from the Corvette forums :
The sensation the driver feels is similar to driving over a series of railroad ties spaced about 6 inches to a foot apart. A bumpy, sometimes violently bumpy sensation. Can happen during burnouts, hard launches, or on 1-2, 2-3 shifts.
#19
Happens a lot to FW cars but it actually does feel just like it was described driving over railroad ties haha as long you use the clutch properly you wont run into any issues.
#22
Evolved Member
iTrader: (11)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Holding over the VOR
Posts: 1,263
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes
on
4 Posts
I've literally put up at LEAST two, LENGTHY responses to how to properly launch an evo. I have PLENTY to contribute, but I'm not going to just endlessly repost stuff. People not only can, but they SHOULD search, but I'm not much of a search ****, so I generally try to be helpful. In this case, rather than reiterate what I've posted in this thread:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...nch-06-mr.html
and this thread:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ch-evo-ix.html
Both of which are easily within the first 5 pages of this forum, I figured I'd just try to reduce the amount of completely asinine information that people seem to make up on a nightly basis.
I mean no offense to either of you, I can see your point on how the parking brake may seem useful for launching, but its not. Its 100% incorrect, and if you're doing it, then you're doing it wrong... but, to each their own. There's never any reason to preload your drivetrain. Ever.
Launching the car causes considerable strain on these components anyway, there's no reason to add resistance. If you need the ebrake, you're just doing it wrong. That said, driving wears your car out, shifting, pumping the clutch etc. Its a sports car and its meant to be utilized, however that doesn't mean you can just do whatever the hell you want all the time and things will be ok? As I always say, its a gas pedal, not a button, and you're a driver, not a robot.
#26
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
I understand the feeling about reposting the same inform repeatedly. Lol. You have got to hang in there though cause they will keep asking. Hell I am starting to wish that the mods made it mandatory to search 5 topics before being allowed to post.
I do not use the e-brake when launching either FWIW. I will look for my old explanation...
Ok here is one of them...https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ml#post9282951
Forgive my horrible spelling. I was posting from my phone and it keep auto-spelling words on me.
Here is a thread in the driving techniques section...https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...aunch-evo.html
I do not use the e-brake when launching either FWIW. I will look for my old explanation...
Ok here is one of them...https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ml#post9282951
Forgive my horrible spelling. I was posting from my phone and it keep auto-spelling words on me.
Here is a thread in the driving techniques section...https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...aunch-evo.html
Last edited by mt057; Oct 17, 2011 at 06:03 AM.
#28
Anyone think it will be safe to launch a EVO VIII with 275/35/18 tires? I'm kind of scared the wheels won't spin because of such wide tires and i will leave my transfer case on the ground
#29
Evolved Member
iTrader: (11)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Holding over the VOR
Posts: 1,263
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes
on
4 Posts
Sigh... As I said, everyone has, and is fully entitled to their own opinion.
1. Force Fed. If you didn't like my explanation of "its wrong" thats probably because you didn't actually read any of the information I posted and are just focused on the fact that I said its wrong. Take note though, you haven't posted any information as to why its correct to use the e-brake? So, perhaps you should contribute something?
2. Drag cars use a trans brake, not an ebrake. The Evo is not a drag car, and does not have a trans brake. Some manufacturers, like B&M make an ACTUAL brake (for the front or rear wheels) that will hold itself and allow you to preload the drivetrain, or, get to your staging position and set the car up without the fear of it rolling for a false start. Trans brakes are for built cars with built transmissions, since it enables the transmission to be in first gear and reverse gear at the same time. A switchable type of wheel brake (like the B&M system) is designed for vehicles without launch control. The Evos have launch control, and thus there is no reason at all whatsoever to use your ebrake. All you're doing is reducing your times by adding one extra thing for you to do.
3. To properly launch, your clutch needs to slip. You also need to take the slack out of the driveline. I've stated all of this in both of the posts I have linked. The evo is NOT a drag car, and though it is very good at drag racing due to the launch control, AWD, and suspension, it just isn't a drag car. As such, you need to get your staging position and timing setup properly to have a good 60ft.
No. Taking slack out of your driveline is good, as it will reduce components slamming together, applying a preload to your driveline is doing the opposite though. Its adding excessive strain into the mix. Taking slack out, good. Preloading, bad.
The tire size, or the evo isn't what makes it unsafe. Its the driver. You have (hopefully) more grip, since you're running crazy wide tires for whatever reason, and because of that, and them being larger in diameter, you have a significant amount more unsprung weight. But the clutch is your failsafe. If you launch it properly, the car will be fine.
But it isn't up to any of the parts. Its up to the driver.
Again... its a gas pedal, not a button, and you're a driver, not a robot.
1. Force Fed. If you didn't like my explanation of "its wrong" thats probably because you didn't actually read any of the information I posted and are just focused on the fact that I said its wrong. Take note though, you haven't posted any information as to why its correct to use the e-brake? So, perhaps you should contribute something?
2. Drag cars use a trans brake, not an ebrake. The Evo is not a drag car, and does not have a trans brake. Some manufacturers, like B&M make an ACTUAL brake (for the front or rear wheels) that will hold itself and allow you to preload the drivetrain, or, get to your staging position and set the car up without the fear of it rolling for a false start. Trans brakes are for built cars with built transmissions, since it enables the transmission to be in first gear and reverse gear at the same time. A switchable type of wheel brake (like the B&M system) is designed for vehicles without launch control. The Evos have launch control, and thus there is no reason at all whatsoever to use your ebrake. All you're doing is reducing your times by adding one extra thing for you to do.
3. To properly launch, your clutch needs to slip. You also need to take the slack out of the driveline. I've stated all of this in both of the posts I have linked. The evo is NOT a drag car, and though it is very good at drag racing due to the launch control, AWD, and suspension, it just isn't a drag car. As such, you need to get your staging position and timing setup properly to have a good 60ft.
But it isn't up to any of the parts. Its up to the driver.
Again... its a gas pedal, not a button, and you're a driver, not a robot.
Last edited by ProPilot04; Oct 17, 2011 at 09:40 AM.
#30
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Blaine County, San Andreas
Posts: 1,316
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
I've only had my car for 2 months and I launched it a couple times. My launch and shifting suck so now more launching for me until someone can show me how to properly do it