GSC springs Vs. Brian Crower springs
Nov 23, 2011, 09:03 AM
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This is Dustin from BC. I have seen the photo of that spring pop up on forums for the past 3-4 yearsThat is not a BC spring as it is a CROWER. If you saw the other side of the retainer you would see the 87095 part number which is not us. PAC RACING springs in michigan makes all of the BC springs
Nov 23, 2011, 11:26 AM
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This is Dustin from BC. I have seen the photo of that spring pop up on forums for the past 3-4 yearsThat is not a BC spring as it is a CROWER. If you saw the other side of the retainer you would see the 87095 part number which is not us. PAC RACING springs in michigan makes all of the BC springs
Nov 23, 2011, 12:19 PM
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I will be removing that picture from my photobucket.
BC and I have made our peace and was avoiding this thread anyway other than to answer specific questions and points about the GSC. That spring was an early BC that was made by Crower until BC had their supply from what I was told. The reason it broke was micro rust on the spring which was from sitting not because of the spring design or material. While we choose to use other manufacturers I have no beef with Brian, Dustin, or anyone at Brian Crower. To me that particular dog needs to be left asleep and not brought back up.
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BC and I have made our peace and was avoiding this thread anyway other than to answer specific questions and points about the GSC. That spring was an early BC that was made by Crower until BC had their supply from what I was told. The reason it broke was micro rust on the spring which was from sitting not because of the spring design or material. While we choose to use other manufacturers I have no beef with Brian, Dustin, or anyone at Brian Crower. To me that particular dog needs to be left asleep and not brought back up.
Aaron
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Nov 23, 2011, 01:08 PM
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I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but I get tired of seeing the same ONE PICTURE, not to mention any NEW evo owner getting a potential wrong idea of something that happened years ago.
Nov 23, 2011, 01:40 PM
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All i can say is there are always failures in high performance products. Higher performance = less reliability.
I will say that out of the 811 kits sold of our 5039, 5040, and 5041 kits we have in running 4g63s we have had 0 failures with our pac spring. There quality isn't matched in the industry and that is why we offer them within our spring kits. If BC is using a pac spring than unless it was used out of its design capacity they have a quality spring and won't have a problem with them either.
Now saying that kiggly has a better designed beehive spring kit than ours, or better quality than our kit is just wrong. His retainer isn't lighter, his spring isn't better, and his seat isn't hardened to withstand the wear of the spring over time. So before someone say's that someone has a superior product to one of mine how about telling me why someone's is better.
I will say that out of the 811 kits sold of our 5039, 5040, and 5041 kits we have in running 4g63s we have had 0 failures with our pac spring. There quality isn't matched in the industry and that is why we offer them within our spring kits. If BC is using a pac spring than unless it was used out of its design capacity they have a quality spring and won't have a problem with them either.
Now saying that kiggly has a better designed beehive spring kit than ours, or better quality than our kit is just wrong. His retainer isn't lighter, his spring isn't better, and his seat isn't hardened to withstand the wear of the spring over time. So before someone say's that someone has a superior product to one of mine how about telling me why someone's is better.
Nov 23, 2011, 08:27 PM
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All i can say is there are always failures in high performance products. Higher performance = less reliability.
I will say that out of the 811 kits sold of our 5039, 5040, and 5041 kits we have in running 4g63s we have had 0 failures with our pac spring. There quality isn't matched in the industry and that is why we offer them within our spring kits. If BC is using a pac spring than unless it was used out of its design capacity they have a quality spring and won't have a problem with them either.
Now saying that kiggly has a better designed beehive spring kit than ours, or better quality than our kit is just wrong. His retainer isn't lighter, his spring isn't better, and his seat isn't hardened to withstand the wear of the spring over time. So before someone say's that someone has a superior product to one of mine how about telling me why someone's is better.
I will say that out of the 811 kits sold of our 5039, 5040, and 5041 kits we have in running 4g63s we have had 0 failures with our pac spring. There quality isn't matched in the industry and that is why we offer them within our spring kits. If BC is using a pac spring than unless it was used out of its design capacity they have a quality spring and won't have a problem with them either.
Now saying that kiggly has a better designed beehive spring kit than ours, or better quality than our kit is just wrong. His retainer isn't lighter, his spring isn't better, and his seat isn't hardened to withstand the wear of the spring over time. So before someone say's that someone has a superior product to one of mine how about telling me why someone's is better.
But I have heard testimonials that say people with Kigglys revving to 10k rpm all day. Anyone seeing or doing this with GSC springs?
ANYONE?
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. I have pulled my cams 5 times already to pop them back on. Im switching to a different brand. GSC it looks like since Im looking at some S2s to replace my HKS272s.
Nov 23, 2011, 09:00 PM
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either will do im running bc springs on my evo, with s2 cams so far past 5k miles no issues tuned at 410 hp, and prior was running them on hks 272 cams for about 30k miles. I shift my car wot at 8k with my rev limiter at 8500. So personally i have no issue with them theyve held up great. Al though at the same time, the cam companies usually match the springs to there own cams. So in my opinion either will work well unless you wanna spin 9k+ then i would recommend a dual spring. But unless your on a huge turbo I wouldnt do it, your turbo would run out of steam by then. Just my 0.02. Good luck.
Nov 24, 2011, 05:56 AM
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I don't mean to sound negative towards the kiggly's at all while I feel my kit is superior their isn't a person out there that I would tell to switch out a set of kiggly's for ours. It's one of the best spring kits to put in a head.
Nov 25, 2011, 05:47 AM
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