EVO 8 Guru Question!! Front subframe not happy!! ; [
#1
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I have looked everywhere, and honestly, I need a professional point of view on this presentiment I am in.
Problem:
My front sub frame - PART #1 on this list, I am not sure how many exactly bolts/studs hold it into place, but I just heard a clunking noise when I go over any type of road surface that is not flat,it is not just bumps, its about everything. I got under the car to find there is a stud that comes down from the frame and then through the sub frame and then a nut is fastened to it to secure it. The nut is not flush against the sub frame, I would say it is down about 1/4 inch, and I can wiggle the bolt and stud.. What happened?
I put the 19MM on it and the stud just spins.. I am curious how that stud is mounted in the frame rail, and why this happened? If anyone has an idea on this, it would greatly help me.
What I think i have to do: Lets be realistic about this. The fact that the stud is spinning is not good at all. I am pretty sure I will have to drill into the frame rail ,and find out why the stud is spinning, maybe the nut that is welded inside the frame rail is broken off, I am not sure the way Mitsubishi secured the stud in the frame rail i have been looking for pictures with little to no success. I do things correctly and effectively to bring any car I won back to OEM, or better, thanks for reading!
Problem:
My front sub frame - PART #1 on this list, I am not sure how many exactly bolts/studs hold it into place, but I just heard a clunking noise when I go over any type of road surface that is not flat,it is not just bumps, its about everything. I got under the car to find there is a stud that comes down from the frame and then through the sub frame and then a nut is fastened to it to secure it. The nut is not flush against the sub frame, I would say it is down about 1/4 inch, and I can wiggle the bolt and stud.. What happened?
I put the 19MM on it and the stud just spins.. I am curious how that stud is mounted in the frame rail, and why this happened? If anyone has an idea on this, it would greatly help me.
What I think i have to do: Lets be realistic about this. The fact that the stud is spinning is not good at all. I am pretty sure I will have to drill into the frame rail ,and find out why the stud is spinning, maybe the nut that is welded inside the frame rail is broken off, I am not sure the way Mitsubishi secured the stud in the frame rail i have been looking for pictures with little to no success. I do things correctly and effectively to bring any car I won back to OEM, or better, thanks for reading!
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#3
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None, but if it were me, I'd find a lift and drop the subframe, then weld the stud into place from the underside w/o drilling through the chassis. I would then enlarge the hole in the top of the subframe to accommodate the weld, this will not hurt the stud or how it bolts together. I would then reassemble everything with success.
#4
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None, but if it were me, I'd find a lift and drop the subframe, then weld the stud into place from the underside w/o drilling through the chassis. I would then enlarge the hole in the top of the subframe to accommodate the weld, this will not hurt the stud or how it bolts together. I would then reassemble everything with success.
#5
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Engine and transmission are supported buy the chassis not the subframe. You will only have to remove the rear transmission mount, axels springs/shocks, tie rods, cross member, front engine mount etc.. If your not mechanically inclined or have no idea of what your getting into I suggest having a shop or professional do the job for you.
#6
Engine and transmission are supported buy the chassis not the subframe. You will only have to remove the rear transmission mount, axels springs/shocks, tie rods, cross member, front engine mount etc.. If your not mechanically inclined or have no idea of what your getting into I suggest having a shop or professional do the job for you.
#11
Alright this is the stud with the nut Ia m talking about it free spins, has anyone had this issue before..?
![](http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab87/92tealsupra/EVOstudforframe02745.jpg)
Also from the bottom of the lower control arm with this access port is I took a picture as well. Sorry the photos are not that great I did this without the car being jacked up, and I am currently at school, so I was able to disassemble a few things from the engine bay to get the first picture that was taken. Any ideas, or suggestions would be nice![Smilie](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![](http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab87/92tealsupra/EVOstudforframe02745.jpg)
Also from the bottom of the lower control arm with this access port is I took a picture as well. Sorry the photos are not that great I did this without the car being jacked up, and I am currently at school, so I was able to disassemble a few things from the engine bay to get the first picture that was taken. Any ideas, or suggestions would be nice
![Smilie](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![](http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab87/92tealsupra/EVOstudforframe035.jpg)
#12
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OK, here's the pic.
![](http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu130/PiroFyre/DSC09126.jpg)
Unfortunately, there is no part number for this. It comes with an entire sideframe assembly, which is the entire fender that connects to the main chassis. Only suggestion I can give you is to weld the subframe to the chassis/sideframe. Of course, the stud will still wiggle around so just spot weld it in place and you should be fine.
![](http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu130/PiroFyre/DSC09126.jpg)
Unfortunately, there is no part number for this. It comes with an entire sideframe assembly, which is the entire fender that connects to the main chassis. Only suggestion I can give you is to weld the subframe to the chassis/sideframe. Of course, the stud will still wiggle around so just spot weld it in place and you should be fine.