Binary engineering seat lowering brackets installed.
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#33
OK, still don't get it. It's not like we're driving mid-60s Alphas with a footwell that leans all the way to the right. The Evo is perhaps the easiest car to heel-and-toe I've driven in 30+ years behind the wheel. At the risk of asking the brutality obvious, how are these brackets better than simply adjusting the steering wheel to fit your knees? You're 5'9". There's lots of room to spare.
This reminds me of the LICP discussion from the other day. "LICP gives more power." No, not on a stock-like car. "It's not the power, it's the improved spool." There's no evidence of improved spool. "It's not the spool, it's the expansion under boost and the shorter length." Petty much relevant, once the pipe is pressurized. Same thing here. There are really two reason why one would want to lower the seat: the size of the driver and/or track-only machine.
Edit: Below is a clip from TG Australia showing what happens when a racing seating position is employed on the street. Yes, it's significantly more extreme than the lowering brackets, but it does underline a point:
This reminds me of the LICP discussion from the other day. "LICP gives more power." No, not on a stock-like car. "It's not the power, it's the improved spool." There's no evidence of improved spool. "It's not the spool, it's the expansion under boost and the shorter length." Petty much relevant, once the pipe is pressurized. Same thing here. There are really two reason why one would want to lower the seat: the size of the driver and/or track-only machine.
Edit: Below is a clip from TG Australia showing what happens when a racing seating position is employed on the street. Yes, it's significantly more extreme than the lowering brackets, but it does underline a point:
For those you who don't know where to look in the video, forward to 3:20 and that is where he mentions the lowering of the seat.
#34
I never thought about this. I'm 6'5" and I haven't really had a problem driving the car but I do feel like I sit really high. I have the seat all the way back to drive comfortably and I actually look at the rear window if I turn my head... I bet I look goofy from the outside when I look out the rear window
#35
6'4" here, so I picked up a set. I like to sit a little closer/upright and the knee to wheel could use some help and sitting further back makes a weird incline at the knee/hip to me. this looks like it could solve this easily!
#37
my heel was in pain driving 10hrs from Austin to KC and I really missed cruise control at that time... I bought these today and hopefully I can get them in before the cold weather hits here and actually get some seat time before next spring
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#39
[QUOTE=FJF;10467795]OK, still don't get it. It's not like we're driving mid-60s Alphas with a footwell that leans all the way to the right. The Evo is perhaps the easiest car to heel-and-toe I've driven in 30+ years behind the wheel. At the risk of asking the brutality obvious, how are these brackets better than simply adjusting the steering wheel to fit your knees? You're 5'9". There's lots of room to spare.
This reminds me of the LICP discussion from the other day. "LICP gives more power." No, not on a stock-like car. "It's not the power, it's the improved spool." There's no evidence of improved spool. "It's not the spool, it's the expansion under boost and the shorter length." Petty much relevant, once the pipe is pressurized. Same thing here. There are really two reason why one would want to lower the seat: the size of the driver and/or track-only machine.
Edit: Below is a clip from TG Australia showing what happens when a racing seating position is employed on the street. Yes, it's significantly more extreme than the lowering brackets, but it does underline a point: [/QUOTE=FJF;10467795]
Setting up optimum driving position is done by putting your arms out about the chest level in front of you and setting the steering wheel to about where your wrists are.
Then moving the seat to a position where you can depress the pedals easily without having to completely stretch your leg. This makes heel-n-toe easier because maintaining braking pressure while performing a heel-n-toe downshift is already hard enough.
The brackets help me achieve this without resorting to more expensive seats and brackets because I can lower the steering wheel down with the tilt and still have room to heel-n-toe. I also daily drive the car off and on. Never been a problem.
If you've been driving 30+ years wouldn't these changes be obvious?
This reminds me of the LICP discussion from the other day. "LICP gives more power." No, not on a stock-like car. "It's not the power, it's the improved spool." There's no evidence of improved spool. "It's not the spool, it's the expansion under boost and the shorter length." Petty much relevant, once the pipe is pressurized. Same thing here. There are really two reason why one would want to lower the seat: the size of the driver and/or track-only machine.
Edit: Below is a clip from TG Australia showing what happens when a racing seating position is employed on the street. Yes, it's significantly more extreme than the lowering brackets, but it does underline a point: [/QUOTE=FJF;10467795]
Setting up optimum driving position is done by putting your arms out about the chest level in front of you and setting the steering wheel to about where your wrists are.
Then moving the seat to a position where you can depress the pedals easily without having to completely stretch your leg. This makes heel-n-toe easier because maintaining braking pressure while performing a heel-n-toe downshift is already hard enough.
The brackets help me achieve this without resorting to more expensive seats and brackets because I can lower the steering wheel down with the tilt and still have room to heel-n-toe. I also daily drive the car off and on. Never been a problem.
If you've been driving 30+ years wouldn't these changes be obvious?
Last edited by nightwalker; Oct 24, 2012 at 07:35 AM.
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