Originally Posted by slimjim1804

Cost of ownership is much lower on an STi over an Evo however. Timing belt 100K instead of 60K, they don't need drive line serviced every eight feet and as an overall I'd trust an STI, new stock to new stock (CT9A VS GD) over an Evo anyday regarding long-term reliability. NO ONE with an 04-06 STi was complaining about grinding gears and slipping clutches a few months after the cars were new, unlike Evo owners. Also, you can drive further than the end of the street without running out of gas.
Having owned both however the Evo is a superior car to drive, looks better and has a unique feel that the Sube fails to capture, not to mention the amount of aftermarket parts for Evos is unparalleled along with the power potential.


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Originally Posted by DisgustipatedM3

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Originally Posted by slimjim1804

Cost of ownership is much lower on an STi over an Evo however. Timing belt 100K instead of 60K, they don't need drive line serviced every eight feet and as an overall I'd trust an STI, new stock to new stock (CT9A VS GD) over an Evo anyday regarding long-term reliability. NO ONE with an 04-06 STi was complaining about grinding gears and slipping clutches a few months after the cars were new, unlike Evo owners. Also, you can drive further than the end of the street without running out of gas.
Having owned both however the Evo is a superior car to drive, looks better and has a unique feel that the Sube fails to capture, not to mention the amount of aftermarket parts for Evos is unparalleled along with the power potential.


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Um, what? Evo has one of the most reliable drivetrains around. Slipping clutches? Grinding gears? Don't abuse the **** out of the car or you'll have those issues in ANY car. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't add up.

I didn't realize changing the diff/transfer case/trans fluid every 15k was comparable to 'servicing it every 8 feet.'

And just as my own funny anecdotal note, my Evo 8 has 110k miles on it. Previous owner installed an aftermarket clutch (ACT XDSS with Extreme pressure plate) @ 25k miles. So the clutch has 85k miles on it as of today...

Originally Posted by slimjim1804

I've never experienced any of these issues personally, but there were plenty of complaints of those being common weak points early in these cars' stages of ownership. Fifth gear grinding is pretty well documented, and transfer case failures occur on the regular in these cars. Very very few instances of WRX STi drive train failures, no where near that of Evos.
Frankly I drive all of my enthusiast cars slower than my beaters. My current VIII has an original stock clutch and a perfect trans as well. Sorry if I exaggerated a bit too much.



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Originally Posted by WW-GSR

Stock trim:

'03 Evo 8 RS (275hp) #18
'06 STi S204 (320hp) #31 (not-so-stock, btw.)

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/tsukuba.html

'05 Evo 8 MR FQ400 (405hp) #67
'10 STi Cosworth CS400 (400hp) #106

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/top_gear_track.html

Faster? Handle better? I'll let the above speak for itself..

As far as response to modding goes, both will be close to about the 400hp neighborhood. After that, when you have to get serious with doing a built motor/giant turbo these two cars part ways. To date, the highest horsepower STi I've ever seen was making a bit over 800hp with a a stroked motor, huge turbo, & a 150 shot of NOS to help out during the turbo lag. Highest horsepower Evo? AMS: 1,100+? English Racing: 1,100+? just to name a few.. I know they're not the only ones.

To be honest, I'm a fan of both. As much as I love & respect STi's, the Evo will always be closer to my heart. Personal preference. As fellow Evo owners, I'm sure most of you have at some point or another been asked what the difference is between the two, & why did you go with the Evo instead of the STi? After having driven many many different cars of all types in my years of driving from a 60's Impala, to a Prius, to an F350 diesel, to an F430, to an Rolls Royce Ghost, & so many more in between those - I've developed a personal philosophy pertaining personal vehicle preference. It's more of an analogy between cars & women. Heck, what else are men more passionate about than these two!? Here it is. My philosophy of what I look for in a car:

1. You gotta love the way it looks!
2. You gotta love it despite any flaws it may have. (Face it. No one car is 100% perfect, just the way you want it! Unless you had the chance/ability to design one yourself ground-up, there will always be something you wish was different. Your modding addiction is a testament to that).
3. It has to feel good when you're inside!
4. If your wandering eye starts considering other options, & your heart has not felt the deep sensation of satisfaction lately - try taking it for a long, hard drive. Passion can so quickly become reignited when you connect with your car again the way you did upon first acquiring it! Purposeful time spent together will always bring the passion back! We often think that what's better is still out there somewhere, & don't realize that we already own it, until we lose it! Does your car satisfy your motoring desire?


Boy, does my Evo do a killer job of fulfilling the above criteria! I'm sure most of you could say the same about your Evo as well. While some of you just might need to get up some Saturday morning at 5a.m. & go on a good drive. Remind yourself why you bought an Evo!