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Old Jul 15, 2013, 12:21 PM
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im gonna go with manley turbo tuff rods and stock crank. anyone know hp capabilities on those rods and has any ever been able to make big power on stock crankshafts without engine becoming a crimescene?
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Those TT rods are good to 1,000hp.. But it's not hp I would worry about, it's Torque that kills things.

The factory crankshaft has been known to hold well, there is just something about the word stock that scares me. So everyone I know that asks my advice I say go Manley crank. just my .02
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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
Lmao at crime scene

Those TT rods are good to 1,000hp.. But it's not hp I would worry about, it's Torque that kills things.

The factory crankshaft has been known to hold well, there is just something about the word stock that scares me. So everyone I know that asks my advice I say go Manley crank. just my .02
i was thinking that or the winberg.
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I was looling at winberg cranks last night.
they look awesome but so dose the ultra light mainly crank.
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Originally Posted by graphitegrey
i was thinking that or the winberg.
If you knew how easy it is to hurt a crank, you wouldn't spend 3k on one unless English Racing, Buschur etc was building it.
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Manley forged for 60-0 bux is insurance enough to me.
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My next pistons will be 12.1:1, not for the power but the off boost response. My secondary kit will activate at 2psi and ***** to the wall from there. I will reduce my turbo size down from the 3586 to the 3582 if I keep it a street car. If not I will stay 11.2:1 and go to a bigger turbo.

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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
Lmao at crime scene

Those TT rods are good to 1,000hp.. But it's not hp I would worry about, it's Torque that kills things.

The factory crankshaft has been known to hold well, there is just something about the word stock that scares me. So everyone I know that asks my advice I say go Manley crank. just my .02
(my emphasis)

I always thought it was RPMs, not horsepower or torque that killed rod bolts. Or am I wrong?
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Torque, RPM (Revolution(s) Per Minute), Bad tuning, gross negligence, etc. kill motors.

Horsepower is an equation of torque and RPM so I am sure that with enough it will kill them quite easily too.

It seems that tons of torque at low RPM is bad for the rods because they are loaded up for a longer period of time then at high RPM where they are only loaded briefly (but at a greater frequency). Once you start hitting higher HP levels the load becomes to great again, even with the lesser duration the rods are exposed to the load.

It seems that oil starvation becomes a big issue at high rpm killing motors and tranny synchros can't handle it as well.

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Originally Posted by mt057
Torque, RPM (Revolution(s) Per Minute), Bad tuning, gross negligence, etc. kill motors.

Horsepower is an equation of torque and RPM so I am sure that with enough it will kill them quite easily too.

It seems that tons of torque at low RPM is bad for the rods because they are loaded up for a longer period of time then at high RPM where they are only loaded briefly (but at a greater frequency). Once you start hitting higher HP levels the load becomes to great again, even with the lesser duration the rods are exposed to the load.

It seems that oil starvation becomes a big issue at high rpm killing motors and tranny synchros can't handle it as well.

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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
My next pistons will be 12.1:1, not for the power but the off boost response. My secondary kit will activate at 2psi and ***** to the wall from there. I will reduce my turbo size down from the 3586 to the 3582 if I keep it a street car. If not I will stay 11.2:1 and go to a bigger turbo.
what fuel e-99?
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Originally Posted by graphitegrey
what fuel e-99?
Yes sir! I have an 8gal tank in the trunk that feeds twin 044 pumps and from there to the secondary rail and reg.
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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
Yes sir! I have an 8gal tank in the trunk that feeds twin 044 pumps and from there to the secondary rail and reg.
what size cams? 280s
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Originally Posted by graphitegrey
what size cams? 280s
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