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Old Nov 4, 2013, 04:59 PM
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Intercooler Idea

Not sure if it would work but

how come no one has invented an intercooler you can fill up with liquid
such as Ice water, or chilled alcohol, etc

and you can drain it when your done.

for daily driving im not sure about, but for racing it would for sure help out a ton for cooler air.

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its like people who have a reservoir next to intake where they fill with dried ice... havent seen that?
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it's called a water to air intercooler, welcome to the party. you're late. also, they aren't efficient enough for a DD.
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Originally Posted by 06ebevo
it's called a water to air intercooler, welcome to the party. you're late. also, they aren't efficient enough for a DD.
Ahhh, the sad slap of reality.
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Hmmm hoping for a real answer I guess no one knows then

Yes I figured it would not be effiecient for dd
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Originally Posted by steven121
Hmmm hoping for a real answer I guess no one knows then

Yes I figured it would not be effiecient for dd
my answer was not a real answer? a water to air IC is exactly what you described. it isn't efficient enough for DD purposes because 1) ice melts, hope you have a freezer in your trunk. 2) although the heat exchange rate is greater with water it's more prone to heat soak because as stated you won't be draining and replacing the ice every few miles. what did I miss?
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Water/air intercoolers are use more frequently on supercharged DD applications. They are seldom used in turbo DD applications. Drag racers do use ice boxes or nitrous cooled I/C pipes on charged applications but they aren't suitable for DD use.
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Originally Posted by 06ebevo
my answer was not a real answer? a water to air IC is exactly what you described. it isn't efficient enough for DD purposes because 1) ice melts, hope you have a freezer in your trunk. 2) although the heat exchange rate is greater with water it's more prone to heat soak because as stated you won't be draining and replacing the ice every few miles. what did I miss?
An explanation thats more in detail this is what i was looking for thumbs up bro!
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Originally Posted by terror rising
Water/air intercoolers are use more frequently on supercharged DD applications. They are seldom used in turbo DD applications. Drag racers do use ice boxes or nitrous cooled I/C pipes on charged applications but they aren't suitable for DD use.
Thank you sir
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Because of the heat soak issue, most people use a spray system to spray CO2, water, or nitrous on the intercooler. This is mostly done for track use where a manual spray is done before a run and a WOT switch is used to activate the sprayer during the run.
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Originally Posted by 06ebevo
my answer was not a real answer? a water to air IC is exactly what you described. it isn't efficient enough for DD purposes because 1) ice melts, hope you have a freezer in your trunk. 2) although the heat exchange rate is greater with water it's more prone to heat soak because as stated you won't be draining and replacing the ice every few miles. what did I miss?
You actually missed quite a bit.

AW intercoolers are actually quite common in DD applications because they are actually MORE efficient than AA intercoolers, and packaging is fantastic. The trade off is weight.

Factory AW intercoolers on TURBOCHARGED vehicles include:
celica ST185RC
celica ST205
Liberty RS
Cyclone/Typhoon

Even without ice, with a properly designed air to water intercooler system, you can get amazingly high intercooler efficiencies with AW intercoolers (even over time, and even on a roadcourse while racing) as the front mount heat exchanger is always chilling the water, while the intercooler is only being utilized while under boost and the charge air is heating the coolant.

AW intercoolers are used quite extensively in drag racing applications where you can use a glycol/water/ice mixture in the intercooler system (with only a resevoir and the intercooler) and get intercooler efficiencies of over 100%!

They are not used on the evo, because the typical Evo Owner is overly obsessed with weight.
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We also lack the engine bay space to keep a good sized reservoir away from heat soak.
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Many factory intercooler systems don't even use a resevoir. They just use the volume of the water in the intercooler, lines and heat exchanger to add volume to the system.

When I design an AW intercooler system, I always evaluate the use of the car, the volume of the system, and the pumping rates to determine if it's needed. And if it is, how big of a resevoir to use.
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I've used a water sprayer filled with ice on hot summer days at autox. Other then that, its kinda useless. The VIII came with an i/c sprayer system.
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^Well there you have it. Find a spot in your engine bay for Chu to hang out and he'll spray water on your intercooler. Boom problem solved


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