FP BLACK brothers chime in!!
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FP BLACK brothers chime in!!
So after a year of ownership I'm finally at a place where I can play with my car and start doing things I've wanted to for a while. Car has 105k on it(05 evo). I want to run an FP black and I'm curious. How much have you guys spent to get your motors built to withstand the high boost and torque levels reliably? ANY and all input will be hugely appreciated guys.
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In my opinion the Black is a great turbo for a un-built motor, which is what I have. I feel that because it's torque come on quite late and it doesn't shock load the motor as much as smaller turbo's do. With that in mind building your motor is always going to be the safer option. Tuning is critical if your aiming for bigger hp numbers as keeping the torque in check is going to be important (check sig for my tuner, who did great work on my FP Black tune). I should also say that avoiding FP BB turbo's is probably a good idea (as FP have removed their BB Turbo's from sale this should be easy), I had nothing but issues with mine, which leaked oil constantly, including on a test machine (thread coming on this). I finally bit the bullet and had it converted to a journal bearing, which will hopefully fix the oil leak.
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make sure that you ask your tuner to keep the TQ down, the blacks make alot of hp and not as much tq. For instance, a fp red would make more tq than a black, and a green would make more tq than a red. This is the reason I am switching from my HTA71 because it makes so much torque that i'm scared for my stock block so I bought a FP Red so it will hit more up top and later in the rpms for tq curve.
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make sure that you ask your tuner to keep the TQ down, the blacks make alot of hp and not as much tq. For instance, a fp red would make more tq than a black, and a green would make more tq than a red. This is the reason I am switching from my HTA71 because it makes so much torque that i'm scared for my stock block so I bought a FP Red so it will hit more up top and later in the rpms for tq curve.
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Stock block, only things changed internally was the cams, headstuds, and kiggly hla. Ran it above 500+whp for about two years zero problems.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...k-600-whp.html
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...k-600-whp.html
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In my opinion the Black is a great turbo for a un-built motor, which is what I have. I feel that because it's torque come on quite late and it doesn't shock load the motor as much as smaller turbo's do. With that in mind building your motor is always going to be the safer option. Tuning is critical if your aiming for bigger hp numbers as keeping the torque in check is going to be important (check sig for my tuner, who did great work on my FP Black tune). I should also say that avoiding FP BB turbo's is probably a good idea (as FP have removed their BB Turbo's from sale this should be easy), I had nothing but issues with mine, which leaked oil constantly, including on a test machine (thread coming on this). I finally bit the bullet and had it converted to a journal bearing, which will hopefully fix the oil leak.
FP still makes the BB Black, just on hold for now until they figure out their parts issue. However I have a BB Black that has had 50-70 miles and leaked oil from the compressor housing and into my j pipe and j pipe gasket. This was on a stock pcv and 0 psi of boost. Currently being sent back in for inspection and a cleaning after running it for 3 min on my current motor. I think the oil issue is still presenting itself with -10 lines on a sealed catch can setup on both sides.
In all honesty, I'm starting to think I have a $2500 paperweight.
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FP still makes the BB Black, just on hold for now until they figure out their parts issue. However I have a BB Black that has had 50-70 miles and leaked oil from the compressor housing and into my j pipe and j pipe gasket. This was on a stock pcv and 0 psi of boost. Currently being sent back in for inspection and a cleaning after running it for 3 min on my current motor. I think the oil issue is still presenting itself with -10 lines on a sealed catch can setup on both sides.
In all honesty, I'm starting to think I have a $2500 paperweight.
In all honesty, I'm starting to think I have a $2500 paperweight.