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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 10:14 AM
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You're going to have 2 of almost the same car? Seems like such a waste. Evo going to get turned into a track car and the catfish into a DD?
A waste? Umm no. I will then own 2 of the cars I dreamed of as a kid watching WRC. Where is the waste in that. The EVO owes me nothing. Been paid for for over 6 years now.

Both will remain street cars.

I have a couple other cars as well so...
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 10:47 AM
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A waste? Umm no. I will then own 2 of the cars I dreamed of as a kid watching WRC. Where is the waste in that. The EVO owes me nothing. Been paid for for over 6 years now.

Both will remain street cars.

I have a couple other cars as well so...

Just don't get why someone would keep their Evo and then buy a $40k Focus with inferior AWD, Engine and most likely mod-ability when compared to their Evo. Just seems like a waste to me when you could have something a lot better in the garage than your AWD 4 banger sedan and your AWD 4 banger hunchback. To each their own though, GL when ever you do get it.

Maybe I'm a little Jaded towards Ford because my Mustang was easily the worst car I have ever owned and the only car I have ever bought new, go figure.
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Because Factory Bread Rally car for the street and it will be mine. And like I said factory backed performance parts and tuning Ford is def on the right path for getting enthusiast what they want

I also have a 05 Forester XT Premium, which is essentially an AWD sports car too though I use it for outdoor activities. Camping, skiing, hiking, golfing etc...


I must really make no sense as I won't sell the Forester or the Evo ever. Only time will tell if I keep the RS too. So then I'll have 3 AWD Turbo 4 banger sports cars and will love every min of it.

I have a couple V8's too for when I feel like drinking gas. They barley see 300 miles a year each though

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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:18 AM
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Because Factory Bread Rally car for the street and it will be mine. And like I said factory backed performance parts and tuning Ford is def on the right path for getting enthusiast what they want
Well unless Ford does something crazy with their performance support for the RS platform, it's nothing impressive. The FRPP for the FoST is nothing amazing, though it does give an exhaust intake and tune for $1700.00...with some official support.

I am definitely looking forward to the RS and what it can do though!
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gsrboi80
Because Factory Bread Rally car for the street and it will be mine. And like I said factory backed performance parts and tuning Ford is def on the right path for getting enthusiast what they want

I also have a 05 Forester XT Premium, which is essentially an AWD sports car too though I use it for outdoor activities. Camping, skiing, hiking, golfing etc...


I must really make no sense as I won't sell the Forester or the Evo ever. Only time will tell if I keep the RS too. So then I'll have 3 AWD Turbo 4 banger sports cars and will love every min of it.

I have a couple V8's too for when I feel like drinking gas. They barley see 300 miles a year each though
V8's for when you feel like drinking gas!?!? My boosted Corvette got 29mpg on the highway, my IX could only dream of that. Anyway, enjoy the RS and your 3 very similar cars! I'll stick to my '15 Cherokee TH, IX and hopefully soon C6 Z06. Variety accross the board!

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Well unless Ford does something crazy with their performance support for the RS platform, it's nothing impressive. The FRPP for the FoST is nothing amazing, though it does give an exhaust intake and tune for $1700.00...with some official support.

I am definitely looking forward to the RS and what it can do though!
Did not realize that, thanks for the info.
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:29 AM
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V8's for when you feel like drinking gas!?!? My boosted Corvette got 29mpg on the highway, my IX could only dream of that. Anyway, enjoy the RS and your 3 very similar cars! I'll stick to my '15 Cherokee TH, IX and hopefully soon C6 Z06. Variety accross the board! .

Yep good old carburation. You couldn't give me a newish Vette (ZR-1 excluded) (even that meh I can think of others I'd rather have in it's price range)

I wouldn't own an SUV either so... Different strokes for different folks
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:43 AM
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No replacement for displacement lol, get out of the 1970's man. Like I said, ask the Subby guys how they are doing with their 2.5L's compared to the little 2L in Evo's. Spoiler alert, they don't make anywhere near the power some of the top 4G63's are. There is a lot more to an engine than just displacement and the laughable .3L isn't going to add anything to the Ford besides better drive ability around town.
Comparing a subaru pancake 4 vs ford's inline 4 is not the same thing. Fords 2.3L will spool just as quick as the Evo.
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 12:39 PM
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Comparing a subaru pancake 4 vs ford's inline 4 is not the same thing. Fords 2.3L will spool just as quick as the Evo.
That's cool and all about it spooling just as quick but I wasn't comparing them, you made the statement "No replacement for displacement" and I gave you a replacement for displacement 2.0L vs 2.5L. Can you compare a closed deck iron block to Fords open deck 2.3L? I'm talking of course for modding since you're pretty sure that .3L will obviously give the RS the advantage when it comes to making reliable power over a 4G63.

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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 01:49 PM
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I don't think any "performance" AWD systems work like that though do they? I mean, I wouldn't call the MS 6 a performance car. I could be totally off on this and I'm not trying to spread bad info, just curious.

I had an STI before my Evo and yeah they do drive totally different. I think my Scoob handled the snow a lot better than my Evo but my Evo is making a lot more power so that could have something to do with it.
I'm pretty sure the Evo is more "FWD" until slippage is detected. I could be wrong.

I think my Evo handles more like a RWD with slippery conditions (That could also be because of the power). I feel better slinging it around a corner. I feel like my wife's STi understeers more
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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For the record I have a Forester XT with WRX bits on it, STi and Evo. Would it be uber ignorant to add a Ford RS to the stable (And the wife wants either a Ford Explorer Sport or Merc GL).
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 04:07 PM
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For the record I have a Forester XT with WRX bits on it, STi and Evo. Would it be uber ignorant to add a Ford RS to the stable (And the wife wants either a Ford Explorer Sport or Merc GL).
It just doesn't make sense to me to have 3 of basically the same car in the garage or even 2 for that matter unless one is a dedicated track car. My old lady almost got a 2015 STI, we were looking at them and then it hit me. Why do we need 2 of basically the same car when she can drive my Evo anytime she wants. We ended up getting a 2015 Jeep Cherokee TH which now gives us the option to get to some of the more remote 14ers, and can actually haul things for camping or cross country trips. Now I just need the totally impractical car to add to the garage and I'll be good to go.

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I'm pretty sure the Evo is more "FWD" until slippage is detected. I could be wrong.

I think my Evo handles more like a RWD with slippery conditions (That could also be because of the power). I feel better slinging it around a corner. I feel like my wife's STi understeers more
My buddy is saying that the RS is FWD until it detects slippage, then it engages the rear wheels.( Again I don't know if this is correct or not) I know the lower end Jeep Cherokee models had this same setup for their "AWD", they are really a FWD vehicle and then when you need the rear they engage it. I don't think the Evo is anything like that, it may be more FWD bias but it is full time AWD.

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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 04:08 PM
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Not at all, I've been eating it all up -every bit of info about hte RS. I've been thinking of stroked and destroked motors for the 2.3 motors these come with. I prob. should register on some of the Ford forums to learn more.
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 05:15 PM
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Yeah everything is ok. Finally getting close to getting my car back. Been there since last year. Is Mike still in Va or is he back on the west coast?
Mikey is on deployment at the moment...
Old Apr 17, 2015 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfZilla
I'm pretty sure the Evo is more "FWD" until slippage is detected. I could be wrong.
I believe you are wrong.
The evo system is all time AWD and the center diff is like a slipping clutch, it limits your rear torque. This is why when the ACD is off (all 3 lights activated) you still have full capability of the awd system.

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My buddy is saying that the RS is FWD until it detects slippage, then it engages the rear wheels.( Again I don't know if this is correct or not) I know the lower end Jeep Cherokee models had this same setup for their "AWD", they are really a FWD vehicle and then when you need the rear they engage it. I don't think the Evo is anything like that, it may be more FWD bias but it is full time AWD.
These are the systems that are suited for fuel economy (smart AWD system). It utilizes the AWD system when needed, and highway speeds (normally over some threshold) the AWD system is off.

This kind of system is famous in Audi/vw's. The R32 for instance is exactly like this, there is a slow motion video of an R32 on ravel launching and you can see the delay as the system identifies rear wheel slip. You don't see this delay like an Evo/STi.

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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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I believe you are wrong.
The evo system is all time AWD and the center diff is like a slipping clutch, it limits your rear torque. This is why when the ACD is off (all 3 lights activated) you still have full capability of the awd system.



These are the systems that are suited for fuel economy (smart AWD system). It utilizes the AWD system when needed, and highway speeds (normally over some threshold) the AWD system is off.

This kind of system is famous in Audi/vw's. The R32 for instance is exactly like this, there is a slow motion video of an R32 on ravel launching and you can see the delay as the system identifies rear wheel slip. You don't see this delay like an Evo/STi.
My mistake. I don't know if we are getting it but supposedly there will be a drift mode at least on the Euro version. I also read that depending on conditions you could received up to 80% of the power the car generates to the rear wheels, I could have that figure wrong but it was a lot percentage wise going to the rear.


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