Flywheel warped or master cylinder???
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Flywheel warped or master cylinder???
Hey guys, first post here on the forum normally I read over other threads but i simply cannot find anyone who has had this same issue.
First off, the tranny is freshly rebuilt from Shep Trans, with less than 5k on the trannny. The previous clutch in the original trans was put back in which is a Competition Stage 2 and has about 25k miles on it.
The car drove fantastic up until the point at which I let my mother drive it, (I know I know...not very smart but shes super responsible lol) and actually it wasn't her fault, I was the dummy. She leaves it in the driveway, and as anyone would, she leaves it in gear. Now, I have remote start and normally in the winter months ill leave the car in neutral so I can warm it up with remote start. Just like any other time I hit the remote start to drive it and thank god the garage door was open or it would've walked right through the garage door.
Long story short; the car got remote started while in first gear without pressing the clutch in. THIS was the starting issue of my transmission lockout.
Randomly, about 80% of the time, from a dead stop (especially on start up) the car locks out of EVERY gear (5-speed). If you fiddle with it and try to put it in gear from either first to reverse it will actually move the car a couple inches forwards or backwards. I've found that if you pump the clutch 5-ish times or more you can finally get in gear but it is still not buttery smooth into second or third afterwards and it kills me to feel that after having a buttery smooth fresh transmission.
I adjusted the clutch already so that it works perfectly with the slave cylinder. The only thing I can think of now is that because it has to be pumped that it could be the master cylinder or something in my clutch or flywheel has warped due to the stress of the remote start-up.
If anyone has any ideas at all PLEASE chime in!! Anything at all!!
First off, the tranny is freshly rebuilt from Shep Trans, with less than 5k on the trannny. The previous clutch in the original trans was put back in which is a Competition Stage 2 and has about 25k miles on it.
The car drove fantastic up until the point at which I let my mother drive it, (I know I know...not very smart but shes super responsible lol) and actually it wasn't her fault, I was the dummy. She leaves it in the driveway, and as anyone would, she leaves it in gear. Now, I have remote start and normally in the winter months ill leave the car in neutral so I can warm it up with remote start. Just like any other time I hit the remote start to drive it and thank god the garage door was open or it would've walked right through the garage door.
Long story short; the car got remote started while in first gear without pressing the clutch in. THIS was the starting issue of my transmission lockout.
Randomly, about 80% of the time, from a dead stop (especially on start up) the car locks out of EVERY gear (5-speed). If you fiddle with it and try to put it in gear from either first to reverse it will actually move the car a couple inches forwards or backwards. I've found that if you pump the clutch 5-ish times or more you can finally get in gear but it is still not buttery smooth into second or third afterwards and it kills me to feel that after having a buttery smooth fresh transmission.
I adjusted the clutch already so that it works perfectly with the slave cylinder. The only thing I can think of now is that because it has to be pumped that it could be the master cylinder or something in my clutch or flywheel has warped due to the stress of the remote start-up.
If anyone has any ideas at all PLEASE chime in!! Anything at all!!
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I have the same issue with my 5 speed now that I have a clutch master FX400 8 puk ceramic heavy duty clutch. I have bled the clutch, adjusted the cylinders, even pounded on the clutch pedal to try and get it into gear and sometimes it just doesn't want to go, and also moves the car a bit too. I have a D1 chromoly flywheel now, and didn't have that problem with the standard flywheel and the heavy duty organic disc so I don't really know what to do either
I got given a tip from my friend though. If the car won't go into reverse (which mine often doesn't) go into 4th first and then select the gear. Seems to work almost every time. Obviously our clutches aren't fully disengaging, so my only other thought would be to get a bigger master cylinder to actuate the slave more?
I got given a tip from my friend though. If the car won't go into reverse (which mine often doesn't) go into 4th first and then select the gear. Seems to work almost every time. Obviously our clutches aren't fully disengaging, so my only other thought would be to get a bigger master cylinder to actuate the slave more?
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remote start shouldn't have done anything, that's happened to a friend of mine before with no issues. did the car hit anything and get stopped?
with all four wheels off the ground, the car in gear, engine running, and clutch in, do the wheels still spin?
once in gear, with the clutch in, car running, does it come out of gear smoothly, or are you having to pull it out of gear?
with all four wheels off the ground, the car in gear, engine running, and clutch in, do the wheels still spin?
once in gear, with the clutch in, car running, does it come out of gear smoothly, or are you having to pull it out of gear?
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remote start shouldn't have done anything, that's happened to a friend of mine before with no issues. did the car hit anything and get stopped?
with all four wheels off the ground, the car in gear, engine running, and clutch in, do the wheels still spin?
once in gear, with the clutch in, car running, does it come out of gear smoothly, or are you having to pull it out of gear?
with all four wheels off the ground, the car in gear, engine running, and clutch in, do the wheels still spin?
once in gear, with the clutch in, car running, does it come out of gear smoothly, or are you having to pull it out of gear?
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Mine did this same thing "allofasudden" also. Two years after installing an ACT clutch and HDPP. Worked ok until a hard pull one afternoon, and then gears started to be locked out. Fourth mostly, but scond was grinding and first was locking out at stoplights from time to time. I did a clutch adjustment and it was all fixed. Soemthing must have re-aligned itself on the pull, but the adjustment with more pedal travel worked.
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It sounds more like not fully disengaging. So anything associated with clutch disengagement could be a fault, clutch adjustment, hydraulics, pressure plate or disc.
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Have someone look at the Slave while you press the clutch look at the travel of the slave. If your not getting enough travel you will have shifting problems. Try bleeding the slave see if there is air in the system. That might lead you to a bad Master maybe you blew out a o-ring etc. No leaks in the line from the master to slave?
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I agree!! I'm thinking now it's a warped flywheel or pressure plate issue. So I played around with the clutch adjustment more yesterday and I found that when I adjust it for a shorter throw which I know is incorrect I just did it for sh*ts and giggles, the throttle hangs really bad inbetween gears. When I adjust it out like it should be for more travel in the slave, the throttle doesn't hang. This makes me believe the flywheel is sticking or warped. Any ideas?
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Have someone look at the Slave while you press the clutch look at the travel of the slave. If your not getting enough travel you will have shifting problems. Try bleeding the slave see if there is air in the system. That might lead you to a bad Master maybe you blew out a o-ring etc. No leaks in the line from the master to slave?
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