Hey guys,

Loose may be faster to an extent, but drifting isn't the fastest way around a racetrack. Look at F1 cars, they don't really drift at all.

From my (limited) understanding, the drift competitions focus more on the "art" of the sliding, it's not really a race (although time may help your score?).

In my car, I can get a short powerslide with dropthrottle while negotiating a turn. In the snow it's pretty easy to get power-on oversteer, heh.

Thoughts?

FB

 

Drifting is faster in certain situations.
AWD in a tight turn for example.(rally)

 

i agree....

 

if you put bananas on the road you can make your car slide all over

 

Another way to get your back end loose is to enter a corner too hot and lift off the throttle. I just bought new tires last week. I could feel the back end trying to get loose on turns, but the AWD still kept it in control.

I've had my Evo a year and I have yet to lose control. The car handles anything. Anybody who loses control behind the wheel of an Evo is really doing something stupid!

 

I have no problem breaking the back end loose, just punch it hard in first or 2nd gear while hitting a sharp turn with the correct powerband and you have drifting action around a turn. Especially on a nice turn in 2nd gear with my rpms in 4.5k range and a quick jerk of the wheel and i'm in a nice controlled drift.

Love doing this to first time riders, the power is enough but put that power in to a turn and they wet the seat and almost cry to get me to stop. The funny part is i'm not a crazy driver I just got used to driving the Evo and people dont understand the performance aspect of it. My best was an off ramp with a nice turn in to my town went into the turn at 60 right before i hit the turn downshifted to 2nd at like 50mph and drifted sideways with 4 people in the car as they were screaming. yeah its fun but i try not to do it often because I dont wnat to kill my tires, hoping they last until the winter, so i can change in to my winter tires.

Just gotta do some engine upgrades to increase your WHP and Torque, I cant wait until i get more power after i find more money to have more fun. Also with winter tires it is a joke, i can do it all day, on dry pavement with my Conti's, just dont offer as much traction as the Advans obviously making your ride more fun, or just keep your Advans on and when the temp gets to 30 they become rocks and spin and spin and spin.

 

actually this is a commen misconception. drifting is only faster around a track where traction is difficult to find. ie. rally racing. around a tarmac track, i gaurantee if you go around once sticking to the race line and slowing for corners enough to keep traction, and then you go around the same track drifting, your times while drifting will be slower.

 

Will someone please define a "drift" or "drifting" for me?

 

check out this website, it should explain a lot

http://www.driftsession.com/index2.htm

 

If you dont have much feeling for you evo it can be accomplished more easily
by running with tyres no larger than 225 and harder compound preferably a cheaper or lower grade or quality tire to get a hard compound that will have less grip and then running with high tire pressure of about 40 psi to stiffen up the suspension which will allow the car to break out with little or no help but if you try using the scandinavian style driving it will be even more achievable and more a spector thrill to see.

 

i have personally done a drift off an exit ramp @ around 100mph................

 

actually from what I witnessed.... the Evo's that were posting the faster times, were the ones that were getting their back ends out, rotating through a turn... mainly cars with the RRE set up... especially nicely powered cars like robbie's buschur evo. trust me, slowing for corners was the last thing that he was doing... and he posted the best times.

we're not talking full blown drifting, but the rear end was definitely loosening up nicely. (wow that sounds gross)

 

I'm pretty sure when your friend says it's impossible to drift an Evo as it is set up, he really means you can't spin it around like a RWD. I can and have broken the tires loose on my Evo. Does it dramatically fishtail like the Evo in 2 Fast 2 Furious? No. Our cars don't do that. That particular vehicle is modified to do what it does. And that's probably what he's talking about. In an Evo, once you give it some throttle on tarmac, it bites down and goes straight. And for say, a drift contest, that's not a good thing. Which is why they run RWD cars, so they can shoot up a ton of smoke and swing the back end around like crazy. Unless the guy is a fan of murdering the emergency brake, which I've also seen. Now on gravel or whatever, an Evo can drift like mad.

 

Good point.

FB

 

you dont need over or understeer or even much power to drift.
if you can transfer weight distribution and have a good sense
of it's limits, you can drift pretty much any car. except for fwd.
you can still kick the back end out in fwd but the drift ends once
you get back on the throttle.

and as for drifting or racing lines. taking the correct racing line
will produce lower times 99% of the time. and the 1% where
drift would be better is on hairpins where the infield is a pylon.
and those corners are never found on any pro races except for
tarmac rallies.

if you ever watch d1 competitions, you'll see the drift cars go
flying into the corners (much faster than you would if you take
a racing line) but when they reach the apex or corner exit,
the cars all lose a great deal of speed making exiting much
slower. drifting is not meant for racing which is why you dont
see michael schumacher pull a feint drift at monte carlo. but
drifting is super fun and requires a lot of skills and ***** that
many pro-racers cant even do.