Notices
Evo General Discuss any generalized technical Evo related topics that may not fit into the other forums. Please do not post tech and rumor threads here.
Sponsored by: RavSpec - JDM Wheels Central

Red Line 75W90

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 18, 2004 | 12:09 PM
  #106  
zmeli's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 487
Likes: 0
From: Anywhere
I would buy some qt containers and divide it all up. maybe royal purple will give you containers at their cost.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 09:08 PM
  #107  
TurbotrixRacing's Avatar
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,742
Likes: 0
From: Edison
Sorry guys....I meant to say that I have been running 75w-90 in my transfer case since the week I bought it. MTL, MT-90, or BG synchroshift would be a good choice for the transmission. The trans needs GL4 and the transfer case and rear call for GL5.

Grod,

I had a problem with my rear after 700 miles. I never changed the rear fluid. Just the trans and transfer case. The dealer put different fluid in the rear and it was fixed.

Keith
Turbotrix Racing
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 09:49 PM
  #108  
[TYPE]SS's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: NYC
at what mileage do you guys change all the fluids? tranny,diff,tcase?

Last edited by [TYPE]SS; Aug 19, 2004 at 09:58 PM.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:14 AM
  #109  
JuniorAWD's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 425
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Originally Posted by [TYPE]SS
at what mileage do you guys change all the fluids? tranny,diff,tcase?
It all depends. I changed mine the week I got it. Some people wait until their first oil change or when they change the clutch. For some people the clutch change comes before the oil change

Keith
Turbotrix Racing
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:46 AM
  #110  
fastgascar's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Valencia, CA
Redline

Originally Posted by TurbotrixRacing
Sorry guys....I meant to say that I have been running 75w-90 in my transfer case since the week I bought it. MTL, MT-90, or BG synchroshift would be a good choice for the transmission. The trans needs GL4 and the transfer case and rear call for GL5.

Grod,

I had a problem with my rear after 700 miles. I never changed the rear fluid. Just the trans and transfer case. The dealer put different fluid in the rear and it was fixed.

Keith
Turbotrix Racing

So I am safe running the 2:1 (MTL:MT90) = 75-85w mix in the trans and
75w-90 in the transfer case and rear axle ?
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 06:37 PM
  #111  
marksae's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,995
Likes: 1
From: SF, CA
Originally Posted by fastgascar
So I am safe running the 2:1 (MTL:MT90) = 75-85w mix in the trans and
75w-90 in the transfer case and rear axle ?
I'd stick with SAE 90 in the t-case. Your rear diff should be okay. The fluid in your tranny should be safe according to Redline. Here's an email response I got from them.

>I currently drive a 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer
>Evolution, and am considering using MTL/MT-90 in
>my transmission. The fluid requirement is
>75W-85 or 75W-90 GL-4.
>
>Since MTL is rated at 75W-80 and MT-90 is
>75W-90, will mixing 1 quart of MTL and 2 quarts
>of MT-90 yield a 75W-86.7 oil weight? I want to
>achieve smoother shifting, but am concerned with
>long term bearing wear.
>
>Thank you for your time,
>Mark

Mark,

MTL is actually a 70W80.
When mixing two different viscosities together
the result is basically between the two but not
exactly varying slightly. There isn't an 86.5
viscosity, there is an 80, 85, 90...etc. An 85
weight is between 11 and 13.5 cSt@100°C, the
blend falls within that range.
These transaxles typically shift a little better
at lower temperatures with the blend of the MTL
and MT-90, I would recommend using 1 quart MT-90
then the remaining almost 2 quarts MTL. This
would offer both good shiftability and good
protection for components.

Regards, Dave
Red Line Oil
Old Sep 7, 2004 | 03:15 PM
  #112  
[TYPE]SS's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: NYC
Originally Posted by MysticMyth
Ok how about this after going to the store I'm looking at using:

Transmission - Red Line MT-90
Transfer Case - Red Line Heavy Shockproof
Rear Diff - Red Line 75W90 GL-5+

I know people have had problems using 75W90 in there Transfer Case and thank you for all that advice but looking around it seems that the Shockproof works great. Let me know if there's more disscusion on this.
any problems using the heavy shockproof on the transfer case? i'm goin with the same setup on the rest.
Old Sep 7, 2004 | 08:52 PM
  #113  
fastgascar's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
From: Valencia, CA
I went with the 2:1 MTL/MT90 Mix in the trans, 80-140 in the transfer case, and 75-90 in the rear end (All Redline). I would rather have the extra cushion in the transfer case. I think the shockproof will work fine in the transfer case..
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:25 AM
  #114  
titaniumkingpin's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 835
Likes: 1
i bought pennzoil synchromesh for the transmission and i think im sticking with that but...
i bought redline 75w-90 for the transfer case and rear diff.
should i?
how much is it if i ask the dealership to just use OE fluids for the tc and rear diff?
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 05:34 AM
  #115  
EvoRs's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
If its 75-90NS dont use it.. It doesnt have any friction modifiers, and when i put it in my rear diff i had chattering. The Redline Heavy Shockproof works Greaaaat in the Transfer Case and is highly recomended by Road Race Engingeering, If you live in a colder climate go with the Light Shock Proof, Hotter go with the Heavy. As for Tranny, Penzoil Synchromesh is Awsome, and was suggested to me by the Mitsubishi mechanic himself. I now put 75-90w Mobil One Gear Fluid in my rear diff and have had 0 problems or noises. Great stuff.. Thats my Combo.. there are many others, but for me.. i feel safe and content using these.
Old Sep 8, 2004 | 09:11 PM
  #116  
Quasi's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Naples, FL
Here is what another Redline tech said

>Make : MITSUBISHI
>Model : EVOLUTION
>Year : 2003
>Engine Type : 2.0 FOUR CYLINDER TURBO
>Differential Size/Type : limited slip
>Transmission Type: Manual Trans
>Issues : when shifting hard sometimes from 3 to 4 it grinds. I read
>online and it seams alot of these cars do that. The Manual
>especifies GL-4 SAE 75W-85W or 75W-90 for the tranie, Hypoid gear
>oil GL-5 SAE 90 for the transfer case, and LSD oil for rear axle
>differential.
>Recommendations : I read online of some people puting the wrong oil in
>the tc and damaged it. I also read that some people had to
>combine two oils to get the right viscosity and weight. The car is
>taken to the 1/4 mile track often but it also goes on long trips
>often too. Any sugestions would be greatly apreciated. Also its
>Florida and it does not get too cold down here.

Nick,

In your transaxle I would recommend a blend of MTL and MT-90, add the
MT-90 then fill with a little over a quart of MTL. In the transfer
case and rear differential I would recommend the 75W90.

Regards, Dave
Red Line Oil
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:54 AM
  #117  
titaniumkingpin's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 835
Likes: 1
75W90 for transfer case and rear diff.
pennzoil synchromesh for tranny
I'm going to try this this week....ill post what i learn
Old Sep 9, 2004 | 10:26 AM
  #118  
EV0lut10n_8's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 666
Likes: 0
From: Chicago Burbs, USA
i have MT-90 in the transmission
75w90 in the transfer case and rear differential. I have had it for about 5k miles. no problems. shifting has smoothened out over time. all in all i like the combination. I might next time switch to redline heavyweight shockproof in the transfer case. but i dunno
Old Sep 11, 2004 | 05:28 AM
  #119  
Karash's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,274
Likes: 1
From: Okie in PHX
A buddy of mine and myself put in Redline Heavy Shockproof in both the Transfer Case and Rear Differential. You guys think that putting the Heavy Shockproof in the rear is ok?
Old Sep 11, 2004 | 06:07 AM
  #120  
glfingbug's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
AMSOIL Series 2000 75W-90

Goodmorning, I've been following this thread for awhile and would like to chime in on my experience .

I want to note up front that the EVO is my weekend car which means I don't have many miles . I only occassionally get notchy shifting??? going into first from neutral.

I switch from OEM to Redline MT90 for transmission and Redline 75W-90 for rear and transfer case. With the redline MT90, I did not perceive any difference from the OEM fluid. There was still the ocassional notchiness going into first .

I got the bushing/synchromesh kit from Lancershop. I first swapped out the two bushing in the engine. Boy what a significant improvement in feel. Everything seems so TIGHT . But, the notchiness going into first was still there . I followed with replacing the MT90 with the Synchromesh. Viola!! no more notchiness . But then I read this thread on why Synchromesh isn't good for EVO trannies. And this bothered me .

I've researched AMSOIL lubes and asked them if their Series 2000 gear lube was safe for synchros. Their reply was yes their oil is good for hyploid type gears but the formulation does not harm "yellow" metals. I replaced the Synchromesh with the AMSOIL 2000 75w-90 and the shifting is just as smooth and silky . YMMV but I would definitely recommend using the AMSOIL over the Redline. When I get around to it, I will also replace the rear diff with the AMSOIL. I am not sure what to do about the Xfer case since it requires 90W only. I am not an oil expert but it seems to me that 75W-90 should be serviceable for something that requires 90W. Since both spec is 90. I know this was a long post but hope it helps.


Quick Reply: Red Line 75W90



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:42 PM.