Notices
Evo General Discuss any generalized technical Evo related topics that may not fit into the other forums. Please do not post tech and rumor threads here.
Sponsored by: RavSpec - JDM Wheels Central

Evolution VIII and MR Cd (Coefficient of Drag)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 03:52 PM
  #61  
1QWKEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 1
From: Turkey Town (Gobble-Gobble)
Man this is excellent, I love reading through it.... Talks all about the design and its purpose http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/PDF-E/evo8.pdf

says that the new front end adds alot of downforce with nearly adding no extra drag..
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 04:22 PM
  #62  
1QWKEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 1
From: Turkey Town (Gobble-Gobble)
fact or no fact, if someone doesn't want to believe something they won't thats it... lets just drop the credibility issue. I've seen alot of mechanics that can barely talk let alone spell so back to the subject on hand
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 09:17 PM
  #63  
TearItUpSports's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 713
Likes: 0
From: Houston, TX (NW)
Just to add something that you all may not realize, and hasn't come up here, but drag is related not only to the coefficient of drag, but also to the frontal area size (literally a full front 2D snapshot).

Some of these cars may all have similar Cd, but those with smaller frontal area (ie S2000), are still going to have less of a drag force on it.


The Evo not only has a poor Cd compared to other cars (yes .01 is a large number), but also has a very large frontal area.
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 09:30 PM
  #64  
1QWKEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 1
From: Turkey Town (Gobble-Gobble)
ma nit would be great if we could make use of the formula for CD, there are figures that we don't have however to calculate the evo's CD
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 09:48 PM
  #65  
KnifeEdge_2K1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
well i'm not a mechanic I can assure you of that and when you are typing like mad so that you can post and work at the same time, you really don't care about proof reading everything. and I misspelled one word. let's not get into a spelling bee please. I will accept the challenge.
here's an idea, finish ur work before going on internet forums
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 09:54 PM
  #66  
KnifeEdge_2K1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
whatever, just post a reference to Mitsubishi's statement or announcement or press release info or whatever which states teh Evo has 0.36 Cd or just shut up
im not gonna believe a fuzzy screenshot from a video i've never seen before expecially when the existing details are sketchier then a 2 year old's colouring book
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 10:17 PM
  #67  
1QWKEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 1
From: Turkey Town (Gobble-Gobble)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...Data+Questions

This guy says its .36 acording to best motoring, that is a JDM evo spec
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 10:18 PM
  #68  
1QWKEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 1
From: Turkey Town (Gobble-Gobble)
here are the best motoring videos for download http://www.racingflix.com/forum/disp...1&ThreadPage=1
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 10:24 PM
  #69  
1QWKEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 1
From: Turkey Town (Gobble-Gobble)
if this means anything it says evo VII's CD is .33 which would make ours .32, but it looks like some dude typed it himself http://tuneman1.tripod.com/mitsu-evo-viii.txt

wow mitsu claims this concept car from 1987 has a CD of .20
Attached Thumbnails Evolution VIII and MR Cd (Coefficient of Drag)-untitled.jpg  

Last edited by 1QWKEVO; Aug 23, 2004 at 10:31 PM.
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 10:38 AM
  #70  
KnifeEdge_2K1's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
which video there are like 20
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 11:54 AM
  #71  
WagsEvo's Avatar
Evolving Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 302
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, OH
Originally Posted by TearItUpSports
Just to add something that you all may not realize, and hasn't come up here, but drag is related not only to the coefficient of drag, but also to the frontal area size (literally a full front 2D snapshot).

Some of these cars may all have similar Cd, but those with smaller frontal area (ie S2000), are still going to have less of a drag force on it.


The Evo not only has a poor Cd compared to other cars (yes .01 is a large number), but also has a very large frontal area.
I am an aeronautical engineer and TearItUp is right. When you compare these cars, make sure you are comparing apples to apples. Drag=Cd*0.5*density*velocity^2*Area. If you want to say one car has more drag than another, you must know the reference area (usually the cross-sectional area of the car). The Cd is a good comparison of relative aerodynamic shape, but to say one car has less drag than another at speed because of a lower drag coefficient is not accurate. A large teardrop shape may have a Cd of 0.1, but high drag due to the large area. Just my 2 cents to this ridiculous thread...
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 12:06 PM
  #72  
1QWKEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,188
Likes: 1
From: Turkey Town (Gobble-Gobble)
Originally Posted by WagsEvo
I am an aeronautical engineer and TearItUp is right. When you compare these cars, make sure you are comparing apples to apples. Drag=Cd*0.5*density*velocity^2*Area. If you want to say one car has more drag than another, you must know the reference area (usually the cross-sectional area of the car). The Cd is a good comparison of relative aerodynamic shape, but to say one car has less drag than another at speed because of a lower drag coefficient is not accurate. A large teardrop shape may have a Cd of 0.1, but high drag due to the large area. Just my 2 cents to this ridiculous thread...
wags can u calculate the cd of the evo just for laughs... i'm curious as to what it is i could care less if its high or low because the cars aerodynamics serve their purpose whatever drag they add or don't add.... just something i'd like to know
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 12:38 PM
  #73  
langjii's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
My DSM has a CD of 0.29
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 01:42 PM
  #74  
EVOTEXAS's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,111
Likes: 2
From: Texas
Originally Posted by WagsEvo
I am an aeronautical engineer and TearItUp is right. When you compare these cars, make sure you are comparing apples to apples. Drag=Cd*0.5*density*velocity^2*Area. If you want to say one car has more drag than another, you must know the reference area (usually the cross-sectional area of the car). The Cd is a good comparison of relative aerodynamic shape, but to say one car has less drag than another at speed because of a lower drag coefficient is not accurate. A large teardrop shape may have a Cd of 0.1, but high drag due to the large area. Just my 2 cents to this ridiculous thread...
that's true but the title of this thread is not drag, it's Cd. And it would be interesting to see a total drag number for the vehicles in question. do you have the capacity (ie. data) to calculate this information?
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 03:13 PM
  #75  
subman's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Directed at all
If you want better sell your car and get a Jet. CD is so minute it is not worth argueing over.


Quick Reply: Evolution VIII and MR Cd (Coefficient of Drag)



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:06 PM.