Evo Stolen
Sep 11, 2004, 06:40 PM
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I have a Blitz DTT in my EVO and when i first installed it I tryed turning it off then putting the key back in while it was counting down to see if the car stayed running...NOPE!!! it shut right off. Also, If you try to start the car while the TT is counting down all you do is spin the flywheel (don't ask how i know that...had a blond moment...lol).
As far as the immobilizer, it is similar to GMs. There is a chip in the plastic part of the key and a sensor in the column. If the chip doesn't trip the sensor, it blocks the signal to the ECU and the car won't start. Most professional car theives know this and can figure a way around it...
As for an inside job at the dealer, y didn't they just use a key instead of breaking the column..think someone's watched Gone in 60 Seconds to much..lol j/k
As far as the immobilizer, it is similar to GMs. There is a chip in the plastic part of the key and a sensor in the column. If the chip doesn't trip the sensor, it blocks the signal to the ECU and the car won't start. Most professional car theives know this and can figure a way around it...
As for an inside job at the dealer, y didn't they just use a key instead of breaking the column..think someone's watched Gone in 60 Seconds to much..lol j/k
Sep 11, 2004, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hbruce16
I have a Blitz DTT in my EVO and when i first installed it I tryed turning it off then putting the key back in while it was counting down to see if the car stayed running...NOPE!!! it shut right off. Also, If you try to start the car while the TT is counting down all you do is spin the flywheel (don't ask how i know that...had a blond moment...lol).
As far as the immobilizer, it is similar to GMs. There is a chip in the plastic part of the key and a sensor in the column. If the chip doesn't trip the sensor, it blocks the signal to the ECU and the car won't start. Most professional car theives know this and can figure a way around it...
As for an inside job at the dealer, y didn't they just use a key instead of breaking the column..think someone's watched Gone in 60 Seconds to much..lol j/k
As far as the immobilizer, it is similar to GMs. There is a chip in the plastic part of the key and a sensor in the column. If the chip doesn't trip the sensor, it blocks the signal to the ECU and the car won't start. Most professional car theives know this and can figure a way around it...
As for an inside job at the dealer, y didn't they just use a key instead of breaking the column..think someone's watched Gone in 60 Seconds to much..lol j/k
Sep 17, 2004, 12:32 AM
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Turbo timer
Im assuming you left in a hurry.. wut turbo timer you said that you had? Some turbo timers dont have that function where you wire it to your brakes and when you drop the brakes your car shuts off... if you dont have that chances are or most likely wut happened was he just jumped in your car and kept pushing the timer higher and higher and drove off with it 
well anyways theives are ****heads that need to get a real job instead of stealing **** and selling it at the ***in swapmeet
well anyways theives are ****heads that need to get a real job instead of stealing **** and selling it at the ***in swapmeet
Sep 17, 2004, 10:01 AM
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if you are worried about someone stealing your car hook up a fuel pump cut off switch (very easy to do, and very effective), just hide the switch under the dash or somewhere remote
Sep 17, 2004, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
Here's what I found out. I went to K-Mart and had a spare key cut with NO Immobilizer chip in it. Just a plain ol' $0.99 key. THen I went out to my car. First, I tried starting the car with just the copied key. It would crank, but not start up. After the 3rd try, the green security light started to flash on the dash. This whole time, I had the original key in my pocket. It wasn't close enough. I then took out the original key and started the car. Then I turned off the car and while the turbo timer was counting down, I inserted the copied key again and turned it to the ON position. I dropped the hand brake and the car kept running. Normally, this would have shut off my turbo timer and the engine. Then I shut off the car and tried starting it again, using the copied key, with the original key RIGHT NEXT to it, trying to be in close enough proximity of the immobilizer's antenna. It still wouldn't start. The original key had to be IN the ignition for it to start.
So, in conclusion.
Once the turbo timer is counting down, you can insert a copied key and the car will not recognize it as a copy. The immobilizer only looks for a proper key upon startup. The rest of the time, it could care less. It looks like it is simple circuitry that once properly biased, it stays latched until all power is removed. This is probably why it is so easy to defeat the immobilizer. It doesn't take some fancy code, just the correct applied voltage (or grounding) and you're in there.
So, in conclusion.
Once the turbo timer is counting down, you can insert a copied key and the car will not recognize it as a copy. The immobilizer only looks for a proper key upon startup. The rest of the time, it could care less. It looks like it is simple circuitry that once properly biased, it stays latched until all power is removed. This is probably why it is so easy to defeat the immobilizer. It doesn't take some fancy code, just the correct applied voltage (or grounding) and you're in there.
Sep 17, 2004, 08:09 PM
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I also have a CompuStar alarm and I KNOW EXACTLY how long it takes my car to shut down. Let's say my HKS TT tells me 2.10 seconds. I wait approx 2.5 minutes and check the status of my car. If my pager tells me that the car is still running, I'm grabbing some beer bottles or a pipe. If I cant detect my car, I'll do the same. If I detect it and it's shut off with all doors closed and locked, I'm fine.
Sep 18, 2004, 06:07 AM
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sorry to hear about your car being stolen, but atleast you got it back with the engine and tranny, I currently own a modified honda and i go on honda-tech.com and there are so many car stolen threads due to engine swaps and the ability to reuse honda parts with other hondas, and we came up with one conclusion: all thieves should die.
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