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THis post and all of your post in this thread are out of place. In no way has NOLIMIT motorsports done anything that is not good business. They are just trying to sell a product that they are able to distribute. Your problems are with TURBOCHARGERS.COM and should be taken up in another thread. It seems rediculous that you are in another VENDORS thread screwing it up. You deserve to be pissed off but take it out on who deserves it. It sucks that your idea is now being sold by other people but like you said yourself nothing was in writing. This is America we are a capitalist economy for u to think that the 20g would never be sold by anyone else but you w/o patents is just rediculous. For some reason you have 0 post in THESPEEDELEMENTS vendor thread selling the same thing. I myself have buschur products, support the way you feel, appreciate all that you do for the evo community, esp with all your R&D, but this is just not professional. Through all this you should find some peace knowing that you have once again helped the EVO ethusiast and have made it easier for EVO owners to enjoy their cars even more.


Atleast youll sell a ton of install kits

Kyle

 

Didnt he jsut say they arent in stock?

 

The reason he says nothing in the THESPEEDELEMENTS thread is because they have a few turbos in stock.

David, YES, I DONT HAVE ANY 20G 9'S IN STOCK, I THINK I STATED THAT IN MY FIRST POST, THANK YOU FOR VERIFYING THAT AND MAKING IT CLEARER FOR ANYONE THAT MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT.

 

Right now, as I have said, it doesn't matter what anyone else is advertising their prices as as THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING to sell. That makes it easy to say whatever you want.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com[/QUOTE]

its pretty much just that line.........does this mean that NOLIMITS is bull****ting,,,,,,,,NO...............every vendor including yourself would put a price up for a product when they recieved a quote for it even though they dont have it in stock.

And you were pricing your evo9-20gs for a price even though you didnt have them in stock

 

I'm gonna say one thing about this. Please dont comment on a situation of which you have heard only one side. i'm not taking sides either because i've also only heard one side. But i've already purchased 2 turbos from TC.com years ago for my tsi and both times the entire experiences were wonderful. My car made tons of power, spooled great and performed the exact way I was told it would. I've used one buschur product and had a problem with it and then it wasnt rectified and I was told I was doing something wrong when numerous other people had the same exact problem (2 local to me) I ended up fixing it myself and other then that I've never used any other buschur product. BUT I do see and read all the great things dave has done in the mitsu community and I still believe they are one o the best tuner/shops in the country to work on dsm's.

In short-hear both sides before you comment on it. I dont know buschur sides or wish to know it, i dont want to get involved. It should be a matter beween him and them

 

Actually, you didn't say anything in your first post or any subsequent post here about your lack of stock. One person asked and your response was to tell them they have a PM.

David is not out of line to point out that you don't have these in stock since you failed to do so. You say this is America and there is capitalism and all, but that doesn't give you a license to leave out material information from your advertisement, especially when you know that you are going to hurt sales of another vendor with your vaporware fire sale prices.

And David may have given pricing for the 20Gs before they were available, but there was no suggestion that they were available and in stock. He was 100% above board on the shortage of Evo9 turbos.

Your thread fails to make clear that there is a supply issue here. You really need to edit the first post to clarify that they are not in stock and when you expect to get them in stock. If you don't have a specific date, then you ought to say that too. And as part of this solicitation for orders, you ought to make it clear that you aren't guaranteeing the price and/or agreeing to sell the turbos by any date certain, unless you are. Are you?

 

So basically are all these Evo 9-20g turbos popping up from different companies all the same? The only one I am aware of that is different is the one made by turbotrix. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I'm not sure what your beef is. He says pm for details. If you interested, pm Steve and I'm sure you get all the information you need. If your not interested, why are you crapping in his thread? There is nothing deceptive or dishonest here.

 

I find it amusing that the forum header necessitates that all items listed are IN STOCK. It seems to be a more common practice than it should lately.

 

So you tell ME not to comment on the situation before I know both sides, then you turn around and say that YOU as a vendor DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW BOTH SIDES? Do as I say, not as I do, right?

You are involved, you are selling the damn turbo! Or at least trying to pre-sell some.

As a vendor selling a product that has a controversy surrounding it, I think it is your duty to know both sides of the story so that you can accurately and fairly represent that product. So you bought 2 turbos from them that worked. So what? Buschur has probably bought 200, or 2000 over the years. We all know the 20G9 works because Buschur did all the testing on it and posted up his dyno results. The ability of TC.COM to sell a turbo that works is not in question. What is in question is their questionable business practices and alleged history of copying other companies - companies who were their customers.

EVOlutionary

 

i may be selling the turbo, but i'm not involved in any dispute betwen TC.com and buschur. so NO, i dont want/need to know both sides. You dont see me on here defending one against the other do you?

 

Awesome price for the stock IX turbo!

 

we alll know Buschurs side of the problem but what about TC.com

remember this
[QUOTE=davidbuschur]

nad1370. The turbo comes with a normal stock actuator. The upgraded actuator is $175, will try to work on the price as I don't want the turbos to be any higher than they already are. I regretfully have to say I have no units in stock. Just the one on my car. First thing Monday morning I will be placing a large order and hope to get some soon.

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As you can see there Dave placed a big order seems as though it might have been the 100 from TC.com

Dave then finds out the ForcedPerformance has something brewing with the 9 turbo and has them in stock. Conveniently forgetting about his order with TC.com makes a deal with Forced Perfromance to sell the 20g with their wheel.

Ready guys............Order is in at TC.com............Mr buschur doesnt need it he found his turbos elsewhere..............TC says to themselve what do we do now that we have 100 turbos for a customer but they refuse to pay.....

The answer is (DRUM ROLLLLLLLLLLL) SELLL THEMMM with the orig 20g wheel that they have been making for a price that is reasonable.

I guess TC.com isnt trying to make a killing on these and priced them lower since they have inventory that they didnt intend to have.

 

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