Two-piece Stock Replacement Rotors are here!
Aug 1, 2006, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ecuflasher
What happened to the 2pc front rotor with curved open slot? Don't see it listed on your website anymore.
Aug 1, 2006, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 555R
please PM a price shipped to NJ 08755
i have no clue where boonton is in NJ
im looking for a price on fronts and fronts and rear packages
with ferodo pads for my Mitsubishi 06 Evo 9 MR
...are those ok for daily use
and how bad is dusting
i ran ds3000s on my honda and it ruined a good set of Spoon wheels but they are black anyways but its permanently coated in a rusted metal dust
i have no clue where boonton is in NJ
im looking for a price on fronts and fronts and rear packages
with ferodo pads for my Mitsubishi 06 Evo 9 MR
...are those ok for daily use
and how bad is dusting
i ran ds3000s on my honda and it ruined a good set of Spoon wheels but they are black anyways but its permanently coated in a rusted metal dust
Currently, we only stock Hawk brake pads in our warehouse.
I have sent you a message with the pricing and shipping details.
Sep 15, 2006, 06:32 AM
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One of our customers sent me an email asking me to comment on some of the outlandish statements about our product on here. But after reading for a while I don't even know where to start....
Performance Friction:
Bolt to sleeve nut with conical washer, lock-tite is used (washers usually flatten out and create rattling noise).
RacingBrake:
Bolt to “self-locking” sleeve nut without having to use lock-tite providing positive fastening without the rattling noise.
With descriptions like that it is obvious you don't understand the dynamics of either of the attachment systems. Our patented Direct Drive system was designed after years of dyno testing and vehicle testing. Unlike every other attachment system on the market Direct Drive puts the bobbin in double shear, allowing the torque to be taken out on the bobbin and not the hat or disc. With the older attachment like the one used by racing brakes the bobbin takes the torque out on the hat and disc, which often times leads to binding, removing the float. Also we don't assemble the rotors with locktite, i don't know where you got that from.
Since the intial launch in the late ninties our Direct Drive race discs have won more major championships than any other manufacturer in the world (including brembo, AP, Alcon etc.) more than 100 championships per year, how many has "Racing Brakes" won?
Performance Friction:
Curved Vanes.
RacingBrake:
Convergent vane pumps more air than conventional curved vane.
The idea that rotors "pump" air is a myth. Very little of the airflow is laminar, in reality it is quite turbulent. In the aftermarket you can see a plethora of vane designs from air foil shapes, to kangaroo paws, to what you see here, but it is all hype and no subsatance or testing to back up these claims. Curved vanes are the most efficient, anything else is "marketing." BTW take a look at the racing brake flange design and it is obvious that there will be no laminar air flow through the rotor at a couple thousand revolutions per minute.
Performance Friction:
- Stress load is unbalanced as load center is on the outboard friction surface.
- Heat load to hat is solely from outboard disc surface and is unbalanced.
- Heat transfer is directly from outer disc surface to rotor hat which heats up rotor hat more rapidly.
RacingBrake:
- More efficient air ventilation – Center mount provides air inlets from both inboard and outboard.
- Heat load on rotor hat is balanced from both sides of friction surfaces.
- Heat transfer from disc surface to rotor hat is greatly reduced due to longer distance to travel.
- Stress load is balanced due to the mounting surface is at the disc center.
- Disc is uni-directional, hat can mount to disc on either side without having to identify left or right yet its truly directional, avoid mix-up in installation, very innovative
I won't even dignify that with a response, you have no understanding of thermodynamics.
Since we are doing a comparison lets look at some hard data, PFC disc specifictaions:
1) High Carbon Alloy with copper and molybdenum for high temperature strength and durability.
2) Vanes turned OD and ID for balance to reduce thermal warping and vibration.
3) Runout less than .001 inches, reducing Pulsation and Vibration
4) Thickness variation less than .0003 inches reduces Pulsation and Vibration.
5) Aircraft quality heat treated for micro structure alignment and durability.
6) Surface finish less than .7 microns.
2005 Champions List
Champcar World Series Drivers Champion – Sebastien Bourdais/ Newman Haas Racing, Second Place – Oriol Servia/ Newman-Haas Racing, Third Place - Justin Wilson/ RuSport, Most Improved Driver – Ronnie Bremer/ Dale Coyne Racing Super GT - GT500 Drivers Champions - Yuji Tachikawa & Toranosuke Takagi/ Toyota Team Cerumo, Team Champion – Xanavi NISMO Z GT300 Drivers Champions - Kota Sasaki & Tetsuya Yamano/ Team Reckless, Team Champion – Team Reckless MR-S NASCAR Nextel Cup 8 of 10 in the Chase, Rookie of the Year – Kyle Busch, Hendrick Motorsport NASCAR Busch Series Drivers Champion - Martin Truex, Rookie of the Year - Carl Edwards Australian V8 Supercar Series Drivers Champion, Team Champion, Manufacturers Champion Grand Am Rolex Series GT Series Drivers Champion – Craig Stanton/ Synergy Racing, Manufacturers Champion – Porsche Grand Am Cup Grand Sports Drivers Champion – David Empringham, Manufacturers Champion – Ford, Team Points Champion – Multimatic British GT Drivers Champions - Andrew Kirkaldy and Nathan Kinch, Teams Champion - Scuderia Ecosse WTCC Drivers Champion - Andy Priaulx/ RBM, Manufacturers Champion - BMW European Formula 3 Drivers Champion - Lewis Hamilton/ ASM Motorsports Formula Atlantic Drivers Champion – Charles Zwolsman, Second Place – Tonis Kasemets, Third Place – Katherine Legge, Rookie of the Year – Charles Zwolsman C2 Class Drivers Champion – Justin Sofio, Rookie of the Year – Justin Sofio F3000 Drivers Champion – Luca Filippi/ Fisichella Motorsport British F3 Drivers Champion - Salvador Duran , P1 Motorsport Japanese F3 Drivers Champion – J.P. Oliveira, Team Champion – Toyota Team TOMS Formula Nippon Driver Champion – Satoshi Motoyama, Team Champion – Team Impul Cooper Tires F-2000 Zetec Drivers Champion – Jay Howard Cooper Masters Series – Jason Byers Cooper Gold Cup Series – Ricardo Vassmer, Team Champion – Aiken Racing SCCA Speed World Challenge GT Drivers Champion – Andy Pilgrim/ Team Cadillac, Second Place – Tommy Archer/ 3R Racing, Third Place - Robin Liddell/ Jon Groom Racing, Manufacturers Champion - Cadillac AMA Supersport – Tommy Hayden/ Kawasaki Factory Racing GSXR1000 Suzuki Cup - Matt Lynn/ Team Embry British Superbike Cup - James Buckingham British Superstock - Lee Jackson British 125 GP - Christian Elkin British Supersport Cup - Gary Johnson Irish Superbike - Alastair Sealey Superbike Isle of Man TT - John McGuinness Sidecar Isle of Man TT - Dave Molyneux Sidecar World Championship - Tim & Tristan Reeves Italian Superbike Championship - N. Brignola Italian Supertwins Championship - Bentivogli Bathurst 1000 Winners – Todd Kelly/Greg Murphy/ Holden Racing Team HPDC Drivers Champion, Team Champion, Manufacturers Champion BMW Mini World Championship – Martin Maxime BMW Mini World Final Special Guest Race – Alessandro Zanardi Britcar 24Hrs of Silverstone Overall - Rollcentre Racing, Production Class - Barwell Motorsport Radical Enduro Series Drivers Champion - Chris Stoney Radical Biduro Series Drivers Champion - Lee Atkins SCCA National Champions GT1 – Lew Larimer GT2 – Duane Davis, T2 - Chuck Hemmingson, Formula Atlantic – Graham Rahal, Formula Continental – Niki Coello, S2000 - Marc Walker, Formula Ford – John Robinson, F Production – Mark Hotchkis, C Sports Racer – Arnie Loyning Elf Renault Clio Cup - Jonathan Adam Elf Renault Clio Winter Cup - Matt Allison/ Boulevard Team Racing Formula Palmer Audi Drivers Champion - Joe Tandy British Hillclimb Champion – Martin Groves Irish Tarmac Group N Champion – Garry Jennings, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII Irish West Coast Tarmac Champion – Subaru S9 WRC Marlboro Masters: Lewis Hamilton/ Team ASM EuroCup Renault Megane Trophy: Jan Heylen, Racing For Belgium FIA Cup for Historic Grand Touring Cars, GTC-65, Bo Warmenius CIVM Italian Hillclimb Championship Drivers Champion Super Touring Drivers Champion - Alessandro Zanardi, BMW Ferrari Challenge Scandinavia Trofeo 355 - Alfred Dittberner Mellansvenska långloppsserien, Class 4 - Jimben Racing MGCC, Roadsport A - Arne Parnheden MGCC, Roadsport B - Otto Dürholt Michelin Porsche Challenge Class 1 - Mats Wahlgren, Class 2 - Andreas Zolnir, Class 3 - Erik Woode Nordic Supercar - Mikael Mohlin Radical Champion - Rikard Bengtsson RHK Historic, HGT CGT10, 1301-1600cc - Rolf ‘Myggan’ Nilsson Sportvagnsmästerskapet, Modsport III - Mats Hildingsson Swedish Rally Champion, 2WD, Gr A - Per-Arne Sääv Swedish Rally Champion, 2WD, Gr N - Patrik Sandell V de V Modern Endurance Champion - Nigel Greensall & Jonothan Coleman V de V Modern Endurance Team Champion – Team RSR Mitsubishi Evo VIII Cup Netherlands Group N Dutch Rally Champion – Dirk Garvelink Super 1600 Rally Champion – Markus Fahrner/ DMSB Junior Team Seat Leon Supercopa Drivers Champion BMW Mini Cooper Challenge Drivers Champion – Steve Abold Ford Fiesta Cup Drivers Champion Belcar Series Team Champion – Selleslagh Racing Team Corvette BMW Mini Cooper Challenge Drivers Champion – Sébastien Ugeux Super 1600 Rally Drivers Champion – Martin Johansen/ Boisen Motorsport Formula 2 Rally Champion – IK Rally Team Wesbank Series Drivers Champion BMW Mini Cooper Challenge Drivers Champion La Carrera Panamericana Winner - Juan Carlos Sarmiento/Raul Villanueva Studebaker ARCA Drivers Champion - Frank Kimmel Rookie of the Year - Joey Miller Busch North Series Drivers Champion – Andy Santerre NASCAR AutoZone Elite Series Northwest Region Champion – Jeff Jefferson, Southeast Champion – Jeff Fultz, Midwest Champion – Justin Diercks, Southwest Champion - Jim Pettit, II USAR Pro Cup Series National Champion USAR Pro Cup South Series – Shane Huffman USAR Pro Cup North Series – Benny Gordon, ShouldIice Allstar Super Series - Kirk Hooker CASCAR Super Series National Champion – Don Tompson, Rookie of the Year – Tara MacLeod CASCAR Western Series – Kevin Dowler OSCAAR Outlaw Super Late Models – Rob Clarke CASCAR Sportsman Series – Dion Verhoeven Oswego Speedway Race of Champions – Chuck Hossfeldt Dirt Track World Championship - Scott Bloomquist Late Model Knoxville Nationals – Scott Bloomquist North / South Shootout – John Blewett Bowman Gray Stadium (Modified) – Tim Brown Oswego Speedway Race of Champions – Chuck Hossfeldt Oswego Classic – Greg Furlong CRA Super Series – Jeff Lane Main Event Racing Series – Bobby Parsley NASCAR Weekly Racing Series– Peyton Sellers Bailey’s 300 Martinsville Speedway – Timothy Peters
a few of the 2006 Champions...
Daytona 24 Champion
Le Mans 24 Champion
Grand Am Rolex Series DP Drivers Champion – Jorg Bergmeister, Krohn Racing
DP Team Champion – CompUSA Chip Ganassi with Felix Sabates
PFC Rolex Daytona Prototype Statistics
Performance Friction Wins: 12 of 17 Races
PFC Laps Led : 1225 of 2380 (51.4%)
Also..
2007 Official Brake Supplier to Champ Car World Series and Champ Car Formula Atlantic (Calipers, Discs, Pads)
Best regards,
-Phil Gilsdorf
Director of Marketing
Performance Friction Corp.
Originally Posted by sdoow
Performance Friction:
Bolt to sleeve nut with conical washer, lock-tite is used (washers usually flatten out and create rattling noise).
RacingBrake:
Bolt to “self-locking” sleeve nut without having to use lock-tite providing positive fastening without the rattling noise.
Since the intial launch in the late ninties our Direct Drive race discs have won more major championships than any other manufacturer in the world (including brembo, AP, Alcon etc.) more than 100 championships per year, how many has "Racing Brakes" won?
Originally Posted by sdoow
Performance Friction:
Curved Vanes.
RacingBrake:
Convergent vane pumps more air than conventional curved vane.
Originally Posted by sdoow
Performance Friction:
- Stress load is unbalanced as load center is on the outboard friction surface.
- Heat load to hat is solely from outboard disc surface and is unbalanced.
- Heat transfer is directly from outer disc surface to rotor hat which heats up rotor hat more rapidly.
RacingBrake:
- More efficient air ventilation – Center mount provides air inlets from both inboard and outboard.
- Heat load on rotor hat is balanced from both sides of friction surfaces.
- Heat transfer from disc surface to rotor hat is greatly reduced due to longer distance to travel.
- Stress load is balanced due to the mounting surface is at the disc center.
- Disc is uni-directional, hat can mount to disc on either side without having to identify left or right yet its truly directional, avoid mix-up in installation, very innovative
Since we are doing a comparison lets look at some hard data, PFC disc specifictaions:
1) High Carbon Alloy with copper and molybdenum for high temperature strength and durability.
2) Vanes turned OD and ID for balance to reduce thermal warping and vibration.
3) Runout less than .001 inches, reducing Pulsation and Vibration
4) Thickness variation less than .0003 inches reduces Pulsation and Vibration.
5) Aircraft quality heat treated for micro structure alignment and durability.
6) Surface finish less than .7 microns.
2005 Champions List
Champcar World Series Drivers Champion – Sebastien Bourdais/ Newman Haas Racing, Second Place – Oriol Servia/ Newman-Haas Racing, Third Place - Justin Wilson/ RuSport, Most Improved Driver – Ronnie Bremer/ Dale Coyne Racing Super GT - GT500 Drivers Champions - Yuji Tachikawa & Toranosuke Takagi/ Toyota Team Cerumo, Team Champion – Xanavi NISMO Z GT300 Drivers Champions - Kota Sasaki & Tetsuya Yamano/ Team Reckless, Team Champion – Team Reckless MR-S NASCAR Nextel Cup 8 of 10 in the Chase, Rookie of the Year – Kyle Busch, Hendrick Motorsport NASCAR Busch Series Drivers Champion - Martin Truex, Rookie of the Year - Carl Edwards Australian V8 Supercar Series Drivers Champion, Team Champion, Manufacturers Champion Grand Am Rolex Series GT Series Drivers Champion – Craig Stanton/ Synergy Racing, Manufacturers Champion – Porsche Grand Am Cup Grand Sports Drivers Champion – David Empringham, Manufacturers Champion – Ford, Team Points Champion – Multimatic British GT Drivers Champions - Andrew Kirkaldy and Nathan Kinch, Teams Champion - Scuderia Ecosse WTCC Drivers Champion - Andy Priaulx/ RBM, Manufacturers Champion - BMW European Formula 3 Drivers Champion - Lewis Hamilton/ ASM Motorsports Formula Atlantic Drivers Champion – Charles Zwolsman, Second Place – Tonis Kasemets, Third Place – Katherine Legge, Rookie of the Year – Charles Zwolsman C2 Class Drivers Champion – Justin Sofio, Rookie of the Year – Justin Sofio F3000 Drivers Champion – Luca Filippi/ Fisichella Motorsport British F3 Drivers Champion - Salvador Duran , P1 Motorsport Japanese F3 Drivers Champion – J.P. Oliveira, Team Champion – Toyota Team TOMS Formula Nippon Driver Champion – Satoshi Motoyama, Team Champion – Team Impul Cooper Tires F-2000 Zetec Drivers Champion – Jay Howard Cooper Masters Series – Jason Byers Cooper Gold Cup Series – Ricardo Vassmer, Team Champion – Aiken Racing SCCA Speed World Challenge GT Drivers Champion – Andy Pilgrim/ Team Cadillac, Second Place – Tommy Archer/ 3R Racing, Third Place - Robin Liddell/ Jon Groom Racing, Manufacturers Champion - Cadillac AMA Supersport – Tommy Hayden/ Kawasaki Factory Racing GSXR1000 Suzuki Cup - Matt Lynn/ Team Embry British Superbike Cup - James Buckingham British Superstock - Lee Jackson British 125 GP - Christian Elkin British Supersport Cup - Gary Johnson Irish Superbike - Alastair Sealey Superbike Isle of Man TT - John McGuinness Sidecar Isle of Man TT - Dave Molyneux Sidecar World Championship - Tim & Tristan Reeves Italian Superbike Championship - N. Brignola Italian Supertwins Championship - Bentivogli Bathurst 1000 Winners – Todd Kelly/Greg Murphy/ Holden Racing Team HPDC Drivers Champion, Team Champion, Manufacturers Champion BMW Mini World Championship – Martin Maxime BMW Mini World Final Special Guest Race – Alessandro Zanardi Britcar 24Hrs of Silverstone Overall - Rollcentre Racing, Production Class - Barwell Motorsport Radical Enduro Series Drivers Champion - Chris Stoney Radical Biduro Series Drivers Champion - Lee Atkins SCCA National Champions GT1 – Lew Larimer GT2 – Duane Davis, T2 - Chuck Hemmingson, Formula Atlantic – Graham Rahal, Formula Continental – Niki Coello, S2000 - Marc Walker, Formula Ford – John Robinson, F Production – Mark Hotchkis, C Sports Racer – Arnie Loyning Elf Renault Clio Cup - Jonathan Adam Elf Renault Clio Winter Cup - Matt Allison/ Boulevard Team Racing Formula Palmer Audi Drivers Champion - Joe Tandy British Hillclimb Champion – Martin Groves Irish Tarmac Group N Champion – Garry Jennings, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII Irish West Coast Tarmac Champion – Subaru S9 WRC Marlboro Masters: Lewis Hamilton/ Team ASM EuroCup Renault Megane Trophy: Jan Heylen, Racing For Belgium FIA Cup for Historic Grand Touring Cars, GTC-65, Bo Warmenius CIVM Italian Hillclimb Championship Drivers Champion Super Touring Drivers Champion - Alessandro Zanardi, BMW Ferrari Challenge Scandinavia Trofeo 355 - Alfred Dittberner Mellansvenska långloppsserien, Class 4 - Jimben Racing MGCC, Roadsport A - Arne Parnheden MGCC, Roadsport B - Otto Dürholt Michelin Porsche Challenge Class 1 - Mats Wahlgren, Class 2 - Andreas Zolnir, Class 3 - Erik Woode Nordic Supercar - Mikael Mohlin Radical Champion - Rikard Bengtsson RHK Historic, HGT CGT10, 1301-1600cc - Rolf ‘Myggan’ Nilsson Sportvagnsmästerskapet, Modsport III - Mats Hildingsson Swedish Rally Champion, 2WD, Gr A - Per-Arne Sääv Swedish Rally Champion, 2WD, Gr N - Patrik Sandell V de V Modern Endurance Champion - Nigel Greensall & Jonothan Coleman V de V Modern Endurance Team Champion – Team RSR Mitsubishi Evo VIII Cup Netherlands Group N Dutch Rally Champion – Dirk Garvelink Super 1600 Rally Champion – Markus Fahrner/ DMSB Junior Team Seat Leon Supercopa Drivers Champion BMW Mini Cooper Challenge Drivers Champion – Steve Abold Ford Fiesta Cup Drivers Champion Belcar Series Team Champion – Selleslagh Racing Team Corvette BMW Mini Cooper Challenge Drivers Champion – Sébastien Ugeux Super 1600 Rally Drivers Champion – Martin Johansen/ Boisen Motorsport Formula 2 Rally Champion – IK Rally Team Wesbank Series Drivers Champion BMW Mini Cooper Challenge Drivers Champion La Carrera Panamericana Winner - Juan Carlos Sarmiento/Raul Villanueva Studebaker ARCA Drivers Champion - Frank Kimmel Rookie of the Year - Joey Miller Busch North Series Drivers Champion – Andy Santerre NASCAR AutoZone Elite Series Northwest Region Champion – Jeff Jefferson, Southeast Champion – Jeff Fultz, Midwest Champion – Justin Diercks, Southwest Champion - Jim Pettit, II USAR Pro Cup Series National Champion USAR Pro Cup South Series – Shane Huffman USAR Pro Cup North Series – Benny Gordon, ShouldIice Allstar Super Series - Kirk Hooker CASCAR Super Series National Champion – Don Tompson, Rookie of the Year – Tara MacLeod CASCAR Western Series – Kevin Dowler OSCAAR Outlaw Super Late Models – Rob Clarke CASCAR Sportsman Series – Dion Verhoeven Oswego Speedway Race of Champions – Chuck Hossfeldt Dirt Track World Championship - Scott Bloomquist Late Model Knoxville Nationals – Scott Bloomquist North / South Shootout – John Blewett Bowman Gray Stadium (Modified) – Tim Brown Oswego Speedway Race of Champions – Chuck Hossfeldt Oswego Classic – Greg Furlong CRA Super Series – Jeff Lane Main Event Racing Series – Bobby Parsley NASCAR Weekly Racing Series– Peyton Sellers Bailey’s 300 Martinsville Speedway – Timothy Peters
a few of the 2006 Champions...
Daytona 24 Champion
Le Mans 24 Champion
Grand Am Rolex Series DP Drivers Champion – Jorg Bergmeister, Krohn Racing
DP Team Champion – CompUSA Chip Ganassi with Felix Sabates
PFC Rolex Daytona Prototype Statistics
Performance Friction Wins: 12 of 17 Races
PFC Laps Led : 1225 of 2380 (51.4%)
Also..
2007 Official Brake Supplier to Champ Car World Series and Champ Car Formula Atlantic (Calipers, Discs, Pads)
Best regards,
-Phil Gilsdorf
Director of Marketing
Performance Friction Corp.
Last edited by PFC; Sep 15, 2006 at 07:37 AM.
Sep 15, 2006, 10:03 AM
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hi
i seemed to have not gotten a message from you
computer crashed!! GRRRRRRR
please send me a quote on front and rear rotors and pads for my 06 Evo MR
i seemed to have not gotten a message from you
computer crashed!! GRRRRRRR
please send me a quote on front and rear rotors and pads for my 06 Evo MR
Originally Posted by sdoow
Boonton, is off of Route 287 (North Jersey), near Parsippany.
Currently, we only stock Hawk brake pads in our warehouse.
I have sent you a message with the pricing and shipping details.
Currently, we only stock Hawk brake pads in our warehouse.
I have sent you a message with the pricing and shipping details.
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