imprtant....read it
#16
Originally Posted by rraulston
i dont understand why street concepts cant design their own bumper and not rip off someones elses design. Man, what ever happend to originality.
Who wants to wait months and months after ordering and pay hundreds of dollars in shipping on top of the premium that they are paying for a piece, which usually doesn't fit right the first time either?
There are plenty of cases of people with authentic bodykits that required lots of work to fit correctly. That is the nature of the product and the process.
I believe that it has always been the inability for the Japanese companies to find a channel of importing and distributing that has allowed the US market to come to this.
Exclusive deals with sole importers were great when the market was small, but when the aftermarket blew up, the infastructure did not grow with it. As a result we've seen the elimination of the jobber market and the complete collapse of the traditional sales structure.
Why would a vendor even want to sell the real part when the manufacturer will not protect them by controlling wholesale business? Why would you bother selling a Greddy turbo timer when there's 10,000 guys with business liscences in their basements selling them for $4 profits? When the system fails, you have to turn to alternative means to survive. This is how the aftermarket has evolved, like it or not.
#17
that's totally unprofessional to sit here and flame streetconcepts like that...many people have that bumper and have no issues...you my friend are a moron
and yeah the enter key helps for people trying to read your worthless posts
and yeah the enter key helps for people trying to read your worthless posts
#19
Originally Posted by chaotichoax
that's totally unprofessional to sit here and flame streetconcepts like that...many people have that bumper and have no issues...you my friend are a moron
and yeah the enter key helps for people trying to read your worthless posts
and yeah the enter key helps for people trying to read your worthless posts
#20
ripping off someone elses design "is" RIPPING OFF SOMEONES ELSES DESIGN. It isnt a grey area, its theft. Why should high quality companies make ANYTHING for us when they know they will get ripped off by other companies who cant think up their own design???? I bet you a million bucks that if you invented the "flux capacitor" and sold it for $100 and i bought one and sent it to china/pakistan/taiwan and had them copied and sold them for $10 to compete AGAINST you, you would be pissed!!!! You know you would..........
#21
Originally Posted by chaotichoax
that's totally unprofessional to sit here and flame streetconcepts like that...many people have that bumper and have no issues...you my friend are a moron
and yeah the enter key helps for people trying to read your worthless posts
and yeah the enter key helps for people trying to read your worthless posts
Last edited by SushiSamurai; Nov 10, 2005 at 11:20 AM.
#22
i have to agree with the comment that TheGVR4kid just made.
IMO any time you purchase aftermarket body fitments such as bumpers, lips, fenders, etc. expect the parts not to fit like oem. i am sure everyone knows this and if not you will.
IMO any time you purchase aftermarket body fitments such as bumpers, lips, fenders, etc. expect the parts not to fit like oem. i am sure everyone knows this and if not you will.
#24
there is nothing unprofessional here. People are simply stating their thoughts and feelings. Sushi, i hope it works for you, i really do, but i also hope you understand that if it sounds(costs) too good to be true, alot of times it is.........
#26
Originally Posted by rraulston
i dont understand why street concepts cant design their own bumper and not rip off someones elses design. Man, what ever happend to originality. If vendors were on here selling pirated videos or cd's, i bet the owners of this board would stop it in a heartbeat, yet when someone clones Greddy turbo timers or c-west products, nothing is done....things that make you go hhhhmmmmmmmmmm.....................i think it was a very prominate vendor on here that started a thread about cheap chinese knock-offs killing this market.....they were so right...............
#27
Originally Posted by rraulston
ripping off someone elses design "is" RIPPING OFF SOMEONES ELSES DESIGN. It isnt a grey area, its theft. Why should high quality companies make ANYTHING for us when they know they will get ripped off by other companies who cant think up their own design???? I bet you a million bucks that if you invented the "flux capacitor" and sold it for $100 and i bought one and sent it to china/pakistan/taiwan and had them copied and sold them for $10 to compete AGAINST you, you would be pissed!!!! You know you would..........
#28
I bought a "Varis" CF lip from Heru a month or so ago. I recent;y ran over a semi's re-tread on the drive home from SEMA, and after having the lip on the car for 2 weeks, it was destroyed, along with other stock pieces.
I let Heru know what happened and jokingly asked if there was a second time buyers discount, and he replied back within a day and shot me a price that is seriously too low to even post.
Thumbs up for Street Concepts and standing behind their customers, I'm sure your issue will be resolved.
And to all the **** *****ing about the knock-off market: I bet you guys own nothing but name brand top shelf type ****, huh?
There's nothing wrong with buying "knock-off", or "generic" stuff, period.
I let Heru know what happened and jokingly asked if there was a second time buyers discount, and he replied back within a day and shot me a price that is seriously too low to even post.
Thumbs up for Street Concepts and standing behind their customers, I'm sure your issue will be resolved.
And to all the **** *****ing about the knock-off market: I bet you guys own nothing but name brand top shelf type ****, huh?
There's nothing wrong with buying "knock-off", or "generic" stuff, period.
Last edited by I'mStock; Nov 10, 2005 at 12:11 PM.
#29
I think you guys were a little hard on the beaver (don't ask where that reference came from!). He was very careful in his original post to say that he wasn't flammin' anyone. You guys don't need to attack him for that, or for buying a knock off. Don't get me wrong, there is no arguing the quality of an original and I don't care for conformity in the interest of making money. He was simply looking for support on his disposition and he was taken out at the knees by the EvoM fam, save for a few.
I bought a quality kit and I still had fitment issues. Even after the body shop did their best, I went back and made a few more alterations to make it fit better. Whoever said it won't fit like OEM was right, but you would expect some type of quality, regardless of whether it was original or a knock off. Good luck, bro.
I bought a quality kit and I still had fitment issues. Even after the body shop did their best, I went back and made a few more alterations to make it fit better. Whoever said it won't fit like OEM was right, but you would expect some type of quality, regardless of whether it was original or a knock off. Good luck, bro.
#30
You know, if you market and sell a product for the Evo (or any other car for that matter), it should fit with a minimal amount of fuss and effort. Period. Doesn't matter if it's a knockoff. Doesn't matter if it's original. If you sell a part it should fit. Plain and simple. It isn't hard, it isn't rocket science. Where does it say ANYWHERE that it's ok to market and sell a product that doesn't really fit? If a company can't do that, they shouldn't be in business. If the guy who started the thread has an ill-fitting bumper, he should absolutely be taken care of by the vendor. If they can't provide a bumper that fits correctly, he should get a refund and the bumper should be taken off the market until the fit issues are resolved. Why would anyone purchase a product they knew wasn't going to fit? Yeah, it's a knock off, yeah it's a whole lot less expensive. That doesn't mean anyone who plops down their hard-earned cash deserves to get a product that's worthless.