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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by P3CC054N
S T R E T C H E D

Till one of you monkeys can do what this "stretched tire" evo can do STFU ^_^
Hippari FTW. Style doesnt mean that you have to conform to what everybody "thinks" is good.
Rock your stretched tire evo!!!

PSST, btw this is a track evo with STRETCHED tires. woah! really?! nobody in their right mind would race an evo with stretched tires around the track... thats ludicrous... o_O PFFT!




^^ just because someone stretches their tires and tracks it doesn't mean it's a smart move . That's like me putting a huge wing on my car and canards even though its FWD and saying it adds performance, yea OK.
It may look cool to some, but when ur *** is in the middle of an intersection wit a blown tire from a pothole bet you wont be feelin too cool . Check yourself before you wreck yourself ....

Positives from stretching your tires?
-zeroo

Negatives
-Rims left exposed to curb rash dmg.
-Tires become distorted due to being fitted to too wide a rim, requiring a much higher inflation pressures to prevent excessive wear on the edges of the tread surface.
-A rough choppy ride because of much higher inflation requirements.
-The Likelyhood of actually having the tire coming off the bead if impacted.
-Their is a much higher wear rate on suspension components
-Their is a much higher wear rate on wheel bearings
-directional stability becomes worse due to wrong offset being used

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PsychoAmbrosia
^^ just because someone stretches their tires and tracks it doesn't mean it's a smart move . That's like me putting a huge wing on my car and canards even though its FWD and saying it adds performance, yea OK.
It may look cool to some, but when ur *** is in the middle of an intersection wit a blown tire from a pothole bet you wont be feelin too cool . Check yourself before you wreck yourself ....

Positives from stretching your tires?
-zeroo

Negatives
-Rims left exposed to curb rash dmg.
-Tires become distorted due to being fitted to too wide a rim, requiring a much higher inflation pressures to prevent excessive wear on the edges of the tread surface.
-A rough choppy ride because of much higher inflation requirements.
-The Likelyhood of actually having the tire coming off the bead if impacted.
-Their is a much higher wear rate on suspension components
-Their is a much higher wear rate on wheel bearings
-directional stability becomes worse due to wrong offset being used
*sigh*
nice job copying this post from the bimmer forums btw, to the tee ( regurgitating at its finest ^_^ ).http://forums.bimmerforums.com
Normally I would not respond but for some reason I have time right now. I am not saying that we should all stretch tires but stretched tires are just as safe as a regular tire. If the Cyber Evo is running stretched tires, they have a reason to do so. So here we go...

-Rims left exposed to curb rash dmg.
-This is true but if you use a certain tire with a thicker rim protector on the tire you can have some rim protection.
-Tires become distorted due to being fitted to too wide a rim, requiring a much higher inflation pressures to prevent excessive wear on the edges of the tread surface.
-Again this is true but from my experience and from drift car experience there is little difference of wear on a stretched tire and a regular tire. toe wears tires not hippari (stretched) tire (also negative camber wears tires but not as much as toe).
-A rough choppy ride because of much higher inflation requirements.
-not completely true, it would be rougher than normal but it would not be choppy. Less tire flex has advantages, smoother weight transitions, improved throttle response, better steering feel, and less body roll when cornering. Dial your suspension to be a little softer and you can compensate for the stretched tire.
-The Likelyhood of actually having the tire coming off the bead if impacted.
-This is true, needless to say just be careful. We dont go around hitting potholes anyway, do we? ^_^
-Their is a much higher wear rate on suspension components
-Plaussible, but good suspension can conteract this.
-Their is a much higher wear rate on wheel bearings
-I haven't checked on this, but I would see why it would be.
-directional stability becomes worse due to wrong offset being used
-Well I have not experienced this with my car.


Reasons for stretching tire:
-To be able to lower the car and to tuck tire while keeping the rim flush to the fender.
-Side wall gets stiffer as the tire is stretched which reduces flex. Less flex means smoother weight transitions, improved throttle response, better steering feel, and less body roll when cornering.
-Narrower tires = cheaper (not that I am cheap ^_^, I just like the look)

Stretching tires is not for everybody and it does pose several disadvantages. It all comes down to style, stance and look. if you want to tuck tire and have flush wheels then you have to go stretched. if not then go with the regular tire.
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by idriveanevo
like tha wheels alot and the look from the side.. but the tires completely ruin it all from any other angle
+1! Side shot looks hawt! Not a big fan of the tires stretched though. Swap out the rear tails and the brembo decal and you'll be good to go
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by P3CC054N
*sigh*
nice job copying this post from the bimmer forums btw, to the tee ( regurgitating at its finest ^_^ ).http://forums.bimmerforums.com
Normally I would not respond but for some reason I have time right now. I am not saying that we should all stretch tires but stretched tires are just as safe as a regular tire. If the Cyber Evo is running stretched tires, they have a reason to do so. So here we go...

-Rims left exposed to curb rash dmg.
-This is true but if you use a certain tire with a thicker rim protector on the tire you can have some rim protection.
-Tires become distorted due to being fitted to too wide a rim, requiring a much higher inflation pressures to prevent excessive wear on the edges of the tread surface.
-Again this is true but from my experience and from drift car experience there is little difference of wear on a stretched tire and a regular tire. toe wears tires not hippari (stretched) tire (also negative camber wears tires but not as much as toe).
-A rough choppy ride because of much higher inflation requirements.
-not completely true, it would be rougher than normal but it would not be choppy. Less tire flex has advantages, smoother weight transitions, improved throttle response, better steering feel, and less body roll when cornering. Dial your suspension to be a little softer and you can compensate for the stretched tire.
-The Likelyhood of actually having the tire coming off the bead if impacted.
-This is true, needless to say just be careful. We dont go around hitting potholes anyway, do we? ^_^
-Their is a much higher wear rate on suspension components
-Plaussible, but good suspension can conteract this.
-Their is a much higher wear rate on wheel bearings
-I haven't checked on this, but I would see why it would be.
-directional stability becomes worse due to wrong offset being used
-Well I have not experienced this with my car.


Reasons for stretching tire:
-To be able to lower the car and to tuck tire while keeping the rim flush to the fender.
-Side wall gets stiffer as the tire is stretched which reduces flex. Less flex means smoother weight transitions, improved throttle response, better steering feel, and less body roll when cornering.
-Narrower tires = cheaper (not that I am cheap ^_^, I just like the look)

Stretching tires is not for everybody and it does pose several disadvantages. It all comes down to style, stance and look. if you want to tuck tire and have flush wheels then you have to go stretched. if not then go with the regular tire.
WOW! You actually made a google search..shows how determined you were to find a flaw in my argument. Yea, I regurgitated it, just hoping maybe people like you would chew on it..also notice how you said true in some form to 90% of my comments to stretched tires being negative. Im not gonna lie, I know nothing about stretched tires, thus is why I searched for it.. I would never do it, because I actually have a brain and wouldn't sacrifice safety for "looks". It actually wasnt off bimmer forums. No matter, as long as I can prevent any knuckle head from turning their car into a pimp my ride rice experiment

Don't hit any potholes

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Never knew ray's made an exhaust lol. Not feelin how wide/stretch the wheels and tires are, but it is your car.
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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hate hate hate!
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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I realy want to say I dig your individuality and all, because I do, but I really hate the streched look, coming from the Veedub crown, I hated it there to. But like you said man, it's your ride, and I respect that.
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Cyber evo runs 255s I believe on a 10.5, thats not nearly as streched as your running.

Love the car btw, would be perfect with wider tires but that just my personal opinion. Not hating on what you've done as I like people that do **** different.
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PsychoAmbrosia
Im not gonna lie, I know nothing about stretched tires
WOW, your amazing.. you came in here to talk your crap but you know nothing about stretched tires yet you did a pro's and con's essay about it... and took your judgement to a whole new level by "researching" good job! now go to your kitchen and bake yourself some cookies...

dude shut up, this bs has been going around the forum for quite some time now... and there are OTHER RIDICULOUS things that people do to their evo on this forum that makes me hate owning an evo, sorry to say. but what the hell can you do, people mod their cars differently

I bet half of you haters dont and will never will track your "beauty" queens so whats the point? You guys are TOOO QUICK to JUDGE, i have too many friends with a more aggressive stretch than 235 on a 10" wheel and literally drift their cars sideways without the tire coming off, so how worse can it be turning around the track??? YES if you do the mounting with stretching the wrong way, it will definately come off the bead no doubt about it... but thats another story FIND A BETTER PERSON that knows how to mount stretched tires.

i seriously dont get whats the deal with hating, when your stock wheels are probably painted anyways or better yet poor evo was left stock....before knocking on the OP, PLEASE do me and your car a favor...deal with your weak car first... get that **** outta here seriously i can walk into a mitsu dealership and look at a stock evo...

how many times do i have to reiterate myself... nothing will help with knocking some sense into you close minded evo drivers. AGAIN EVO'S DONT HAVE TO SEE TRACK TO OWN ONE AND OBVIOUSLY NOT A TRACK GOD

Originally Posted by SME
Cyber evo runs 255s I believe on a 10.5, thats not nearly as streched as your running..
Sorry, but thats still considered stretched according to evo-m because 10.5's can run 285... its funny because, when that car was posted, people gave nothing but positive comments because its a track car.. but when it comes to a non-tracked evo some dumb idiot will come and bash the guy with stretched tires.

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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i gotta say that shine is flossin!
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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how old is the OP?
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by essjEVO
WOW, your amazing.. you came in here to talk your crap but you know nothing about stretched tires yet you did a pro's and con's essay about it... and took your judgement to a whole new level by "researching" good job.

dude shut up, this bs has been going around the forum for quite some time now... and there are OTHER RIDICULOUS things that people do to their evo on this forum that makes me hate owning an evo, sorry to say. but what the hell can you do, people mod their cars differently

I bet half of you haters dont and will never will track your "beauty" queens so whats the point? You guys are TOOO QUICK to JUDGE, i have too many friends with a more aggressive stretch than 235 on a 10" wheel and literally drift their cars sideways without the tire coming off, so how worse can it be turning around the track??? YES if you do the mounting with stretching the wrong way, it will definately come off the bead no doubt about it... but thats another story FIND A BETTER PERSON that knows how to mount stretched tires.

i seriously dont get whats the deal with hating, when your stock wheels are probably painted anyways or better yet poor evo was left stock....before knocking on the OP, PLEASE do me and your car a favor...deal with your weak car first... get that **** outta here seriously...

how many times do i have to reiterate myself... nothing will help with knocking some sense into you close minded evo drivers. AGAIN EVO'S DONT HAVE TO SEE TRACK TO OWN ONE AND OBVIOUSLY NOT A TRACK GOD


Sorry, but thats still considered stretched according to evo-m because 10.5's can run 285... its funny because, when that car was posted, people gave nothing but positive comments because its a track car.. but when it comes to a non-tracked evo some dumb idiot will come and bash the guy with stretched tires.
Why is that so wrong? True knowledge exists in knowing that you know absolutely nothing. Now I am better informed and can give better advice to others. This is what google is for. You complain about more redonculous things that can be modded on a car. I'm sorry but most other mods can't kill a person!...the tires are the only thing in contact to the road, you f*** that up and you put other peoples lives on the line. I could give two sh*ts about someones riced out car but when your tire pops and you veer into my car I take that sh*t to heart
You Sir have a good day.
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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<3 those rims
even though the tires are stretched
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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how did a VW fad get mixed up with evos?
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im seriously tired of reading and coming across a thread that has nothing but haters.. you can hate but there are other ways to put your opinion to use...... like i said THATS THEIR bad that the person that mounted their wheels didnt properly mount em, thats why you need to do yourself a favor and look for a better reputable stretch tire mounter. and there are also ways to avoid a car with stretched tires.. MOVE OVER for your own safety if your so concern about that....

and for those that cry about the wheels getting damaged... if you stretch your tires im pretty sure you should already know the consequences with kissing the curbs.......

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