Notices
Evo Tires / Wheels / Brakes / Suspension Discuss everything that helps make your car start and stop to the best of it's abilities.

Spring rates

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 8, 2002, 03:33 AM
  #1  
wtz
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
wtz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Spring rates

Hi,
Can someone tell me the stock spring rates front and rear on an Evo VII? Lbs or NM is fine.
Thanks,
Old Feb 6, 2004, 03:46 PM
  #2  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (4)
 
2literturbos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
To the top, I wanna know as well.
-James
Old Feb 7, 2004, 02:34 AM
  #3  
wtz
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
wtz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Stock Evo spring rates are 225 lbs. front and 260 lbs. rear. This is US spec.
Cheers,
Old Feb 7, 2004, 07:28 AM
  #4  
Taz
Evolving Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Taz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: ponce
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wow that's it? 225 and 260? That's really surprising considering the choppy ride. Maybe the valving on the shocks is set to viagra stiff...
Old Feb 9, 2004, 11:29 AM
  #5  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
JT-KGY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Where you find this data?
I posted this question way back... the answer I got was
180 front &
225 rear.... I believe.

Originally posted by wtz
Stock Evo spring rates are 225 lbs. front and 260 lbs. rear. This is US spec.
Cheers,
Old Feb 9, 2004, 11:45 AM
  #6  
Evolving Member
iTrader: (4)
 
93esp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had the stock springs tested by ProParts and the rates were 180 lb/in on the front and 225 lb/in rear. The choppy ride is due to the stock shock valving which appears to be set for much stiffer springs.
Old Feb 9, 2004, 01:23 PM
  #7  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
JT-KGY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exactly what my friend is telling me... he said that my EVO's ride
is really poor over small bumps... however, seems to be much
less punishing at highway speeds...


Originally posted by 93esp
I had the stock springs tested by ProParts and the rates were 180 lb/in on the front and 225 lb/in rear. The choppy ride is due to the stock shock valving which appears to be set for much stiffer springs.
Old Feb 14, 2004, 08:27 PM
  #8  
wtz
Evolving Member
Thread Starter
 
wtz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I don't have quite the faith in Pro Parts as I do in Joe Stimola from SRP Engineering. He has been doing spring and shock work with both the SCCA and various pro-series teams forever. I stand by my numbers.
Cheers,
Old Feb 15, 2004, 05:13 AM
  #9  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (21)
 
4ringturncoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MI
Posts: 1,090
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That is interesting on the stock numbers! Tien S's are only 212 front and 291 rear.
Old Feb 15, 2004, 06:25 AM
  #10  
Account Disabled
iTrader: (185)
 
Z1 Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 2,565
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Joe Stmiloa - there is a name from the past! My partner used to work for him years and years ago
Old Feb 15, 2004, 11:04 PM
  #11  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (10)
 
timzcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,691
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally posted by 4ringturncoat
That is interesting on the stock numbers! Tien S's are only 212 front and 291 rear.
Lancershop quotes them as 196 front and 268 rear for the S Tech. I can only assume that came from Tein themselves.

Anyone know the rates on the Eibach Pro kit?
Old Feb 16, 2004, 05:45 AM
  #12  
Evolving Member
 
tsi90awd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern Michigan
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Gruppe-S has a number of spring rates listed on their website:

Tien STech, Front: 196 lb/in, Rear: 268 in/in

RSR, Front: 216, Rear: 177

Eibach Pro-Kit, Front: 165, Rear: 140

Japanparts has some numbers for some Ralliart springs:

Front: 280 lb/in, Rear: 307 lb/in

The problem is that the websites don't describe whether the springs have linear or progressive spring rate. You can tell by looking at the springs, but the pictures shown are often kinda small and not at a good angle.

With a progressive spring, the rate increases with more compression, so the spring rate number will depend on how much the spring is compressed.

Generally, linear rate springs are better for performance because they are more predictable.
Old Feb 16, 2004, 07:52 AM
  #13  
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
 
exhaust_note's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
damn... them ralli art springs are stiff... whats the drop on them???
Old Feb 16, 2004, 07:56 AM
  #14  
Evolving Member
 
tsi90awd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Northern Michigan
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That site doesn't give any drop information on these springs. I'd like to know that myself. It does show a diagram with Ralliart coilovers that shows a recommended ride height.

http://www.japanparts.com/Pic/pic093/01-01.jpeg
Old Feb 16, 2004, 09:35 AM
  #15  
Evolving Member
 
DrMerl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: San Diego
Posts: 343
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Is it better to maintain the stock ratio of fore and aft rates? The Tein's seem to pretty "different" than the rest, I think they also lower the front more than others to give a visual evenness. I ask because I'm looking for the best compromise for pure street driving in all conditions and using the stock struts.


Quick Reply: Spring rates



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:05 AM.