MR Springs Feedback Thread , Got springs on ur MR? GO HERE!!
Jul 18, 2005, 10:57 AM
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Let me chime in and tell you want I think of the Works Springs. I installed them on my MR on Friday with the Works Camber Plates. I had my alignement set at -2.2 and didn't really touch the rear much. I will post exact settings when I do my thread on this install. Anyhow, I did an Autox on Saturday and Track day on Sunday. I think the car is lowered a little more than a inch. I didn't want to measure until the springs settled.
My thoughts on the cars handling improvements on both days was that I was impressed. It greatly reduced body roll, the car feels more steady at speed. At the autox there was improvements in breaking and turn in was definately noticeable. The MR was great on the track prior to the springs, but this is a definate must for you track day guys. I need to autox the car a few more times to give my final verdict, but it was a different car autoxing, I think the camber change had something to do with that too. I just need some R compounds for both and I will be unstoppable!
I need to drive around for a few days to really get a feel for the ride. It is definately stiffer than before. A level of ride comfort is gone now with these springs (to be expected though). At speed you don't notice it as far as comfort is concerned. It is the slower speed that it becomes apparent there are spring on the car. More to come on this later and pictures too..
So to sum it up, I am happy so far with these springs.
My thoughts on the cars handling improvements on both days was that I was impressed. It greatly reduced body roll, the car feels more steady at speed. At the autox there was improvements in breaking and turn in was definately noticeable. The MR was great on the track prior to the springs, but this is a definate must for you track day guys. I need to autox the car a few more times to give my final verdict, but it was a different car autoxing, I think the camber change had something to do with that too. I just need some R compounds for both and I will be unstoppable!
I need to drive around for a few days to really get a feel for the ride. It is definately stiffer than before. A level of ride comfort is gone now with these springs (to be expected though). At speed you don't notice it as far as comfort is concerned. It is the slower speed that it becomes apparent there are spring on the car. More to come on this later and pictures too..
So to sum it up, I am happy so far with these springs.
Jul 18, 2005, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by alex_123_fra
It seems that the swift springs are really good all rounders. I quite like the idea that they were designed for the MR and they make the car look great. Francis, how can I get these in the UK...would you be able to ship them to me?
As far as I know, there is no UK swift dealer. I really want a set of these ASAP
As far as I know, there is no UK swift dealer. I really want a set of these ASAP
Check your email. We don't have any problem shipping to the UK!
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Jul 18, 2005, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hooptee
These pics are all the after shots.
Facts:
These springs are 1 lb. lighter on the rears and 1.5 lb for the fronts. (yes, I weighed them)
I measured from the ground to the top of the fender wells:
Front stock - 27 1/8"
Front w/ Swift - 26" - effective drop is 1 1/8"
Rear stock - 26 1/4"
Rear w/ Swift - 25 1/2 - effective drop is 3/4"
Driving impressions so far:
This is the way the MR should have come from the factory. It drives just like my 2002 Porsche C4S w/ the factory sport suspension. The ride is *slightly* firmer, but in a damn good way. You can feel slow bumps a wee-bit more (like speed bumps) but not jarring in any way. On the streets the ride is marginally better, but much better at handling wash-board roads. However, at higher speeds the MR feels much more controlled and is actually smoother on the highway. I don't feel the car floating over slow rolling dips say at 80+mph on the freeway, and it feels much more planted over fast sweepers. Cornering ability is outstanding, MR feels more neutral, much less tendency to dip & plow into a corner and transitions very well from right to left. Swift really matched the springs to the Bilsteins.
In summary, hope this helps some of you on the fence about getting springs on your MR. Get the Swifts! I really like the drop, not too low and was exactly the street setup I was looking for. I'm really pleased w/ the Swift springs and bigtime props to Francis at A-Spec for convincing me to try them.
-Gary
Facts:
These springs are 1 lb. lighter on the rears and 1.5 lb for the fronts. (yes, I weighed them)
I measured from the ground to the top of the fender wells:
Front stock - 27 1/8"
Front w/ Swift - 26" - effective drop is 1 1/8"
Rear stock - 26 1/4"
Rear w/ Swift - 25 1/2 - effective drop is 3/4"
Driving impressions so far:
This is the way the MR should have come from the factory. It drives just like my 2002 Porsche C4S w/ the factory sport suspension. The ride is *slightly* firmer, but in a damn good way. You can feel slow bumps a wee-bit more (like speed bumps) but not jarring in any way. On the streets the ride is marginally better, but much better at handling wash-board roads. However, at higher speeds the MR feels much more controlled and is actually smoother on the highway. I don't feel the car floating over slow rolling dips say at 80+mph on the freeway, and it feels much more planted over fast sweepers. Cornering ability is outstanding, MR feels more neutral, much less tendency to dip & plow into a corner and transitions very well from right to left. Swift really matched the springs to the Bilsteins.
In summary, hope this helps some of you on the fence about getting springs on your MR. Get the Swifts! I really like the drop, not too low and was exactly the street setup I was looking for. I'm really pleased w/ the Swift springs and bigtime props to Francis at A-Spec for convincing me to try them.
-Gary
What did I tell you about these springs?
Anyhow, your ride looks GREAT! I'm very happy that you like them and hopefully this review will help those that are on the fence.
Anyone who is interested, shoot me a PM!
Thanks again Gary!
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Jul 19, 2005, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by h22gordo
Got my Swift springs installed a few weeks ago!
Thanks again Francis!
Loving them! Great ride, perfect for me while I wait for coilover $$.
Thanks again Francis!
Loving them! Great ride, perfect for me while I wait for coilover $$.
No Prob Gordan! I'm glad you like them!
Regards,
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Jul 25, 2005, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nez136
this is great!, i need to order these springs soon!
I have 18" wheels(tire=245-40-18) will i rub with a drop like this?
I have 18" wheels(tire=245-40-18) will i rub with a drop like this?
Just shoot me a PM or give me a call if you would like to order!
Regards,
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Oct 19, 2005, 07:56 AM
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Installed the Swift MR springs on my IX MR at Harman in Torrance. Drop was 1" front and .25" rear. Will report back on driving impressions when I have put some spirited miles on them.
Great people over at A-Spec, ordered online and picked them up same day so thank you for that.
Initial impression is that the car needs a rear sway to reduce body roll, cant say the springs alone caused this requirement but perhaps its more noticeable now vs stock?
Ride comfort is great, no change. Freeway speeds shes comfortable and predictable, the odd hole in the 710S did not phase the MR.
It might just be me but I think turn in response is a little lagging in hard corners but again I will report back after more miles.
Plan on adding a rear sway asap to test it out w/ the Swift springs as well. Not sure who I am going with at this time.
Great people over at A-Spec, ordered online and picked them up same day so thank you for that.
Initial impression is that the car needs a rear sway to reduce body roll, cant say the springs alone caused this requirement but perhaps its more noticeable now vs stock?
Ride comfort is great, no change. Freeway speeds shes comfortable and predictable, the odd hole in the 710S did not phase the MR.
It might just be me but I think turn in response is a little lagging in hard corners but again I will report back after more miles.
Plan on adding a rear sway asap to test it out w/ the Swift springs as well. Not sure who I am going with at this time.
Oct 19, 2005, 09:09 AM
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Ran Works springs at Thunderhill
Ran my Evo Mr at thunderhill last month with Green flag. Other than the Works
springs my MR has 25mm rear bar & lower control arm bushings. Ran Khumo
225/45/17s on the BBS wheels. Max camber in front(-2deg) and -1 deg in rear.
Also PFC race pads. This being my first time out in the Evo I ran a respectable
2:15 using the turn 5 bypass. My mechanic who set the car up ran a 2:05!
He also drives the #00 Viper in World Challange Gt. the car was netural
to slight oversteer; no push! However, we could have gone faster with
stiffer front springs! The front Khumo's were worn into the upper sidewall
due to front body roll, camber & a stickey tire. I think the springs with street
tires would be OK with a bit more camber. The springs are coming off for
KW Varient 3 coil-overs & 255/40/17Ra1s on 17x9 wheels.
Then back to Thunderhill next month with NCRC.
springs my MR has 25mm rear bar & lower control arm bushings. Ran Khumo
225/45/17s on the BBS wheels. Max camber in front(-2deg) and -1 deg in rear.
Also PFC race pads. This being my first time out in the Evo I ran a respectable
2:15 using the turn 5 bypass. My mechanic who set the car up ran a 2:05!
He also drives the #00 Viper in World Challange Gt. the car was netural
to slight oversteer; no push! However, we could have gone faster with
stiffer front springs! The front Khumo's were worn into the upper sidewall
due to front body roll, camber & a stickey tire. I think the springs with street
tires would be OK with a bit more camber. The springs are coming off for
KW Varient 3 coil-overs & 255/40/17Ra1s on 17x9 wheels.
Then back to Thunderhill next month with NCRC.
Nov 16, 2005, 01:54 PM
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Update on my MR w/ Swift springs. Yesterday the Perrin adj. sway bar was installed in the back. Set on the middle setting it reduced body roll 70-75% and was the icing on the cake IMO for a good affordable street setup for the MR.
The car now feels like the non MR in the corners (low body roll thanks to stiff shocks) but with the added benefit of relatively comfortable shocks. Bumps in the road encountered while cornering were soaked up with ease, no drama.
I highly recommend the sway bar / Swift MR spring combo for the street. Hell even for a stock MR I think the sway bar is a must to increase the fun factor and reduce body roll.
The car now feels like the non MR in the corners (low body roll thanks to stiff shocks) but with the added benefit of relatively comfortable shocks. Bumps in the road encountered while cornering were soaked up with ease, no drama.
I highly recommend the sway bar / Swift MR spring combo for the street. Hell even for a stock MR I think the sway bar is a must to increase the fun factor and reduce body roll.
Nov 16, 2005, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by res04
Update on my MR w/ Swift springs. Yesterday the Perrin adj. sway bar was installed in the back. Set on the middle setting it reduced body roll 70-75% and was the icing on the cake IMO for a good affordable street setup for the MR.
The car now feels like the non MR in the corners (low body roll thanks to stiff shocks) but with the added benefit of relatively comfortable shocks. Bumps in the road encountered while cornering were soaked up with ease, no drama.
I highly recommend the sway bar / Swift MR spring combo for the street. Hell even for a stock MR I think the sway bar is a must to increase the fun factor and reduce body roll.
The car now feels like the non MR in the corners (low body roll thanks to stiff shocks) but with the added benefit of relatively comfortable shocks. Bumps in the road encountered while cornering were soaked up with ease, no drama.
I highly recommend the sway bar / Swift MR spring combo for the street. Hell even for a stock MR I think the sway bar is a must to increase the fun factor and reduce body roll.
Excellent report res! Glad you like the setup!
Just as a heads up for those of you guys interested in the Swifts, we just got a new shipment in for the MR (acutally, only 5 sets). Anyone interested, shoot me a PM
On another note, for those looking for other rear sway options, Swift has just released their dynamic rear stabilizer bar for the MR, GSR, and RS. A nice complement to the Swift springs.
Francis@aspec
Jan 17, 2006, 08:59 PM
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Espelir GTs $259 shipped - order recv'd :)
Originally Posted by EVO MR FU
make sure to give us feedback once u get those swift springs on
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hopup1/laevvi.html
Jan 19, 2006, 07:03 AM
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Shop for Espelir GTs at $259 shipped. I just received my set - they look nice!
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hopup1/laevvi.html
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hopup1/laevvi.html
Swift and Works seem to list 2 different versions!
Thanks!